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  • hugh grant
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    #21
    Originally posted by Toffee
    There's a reason that Fury didn't want the rematch. It didn't prove anything. He had nothing to gain and everything to lose.

    The idea that beating Wilder, again, establishes Fury's greatness is odd. He battered him in the second fight. What did beating him again prove?

    If that's how it works then he should probably just go and beat him up again. By Fury v Wilder 6 he'll be the greatest of all time.
    I guess if fury beat Josh x 2 or 3, usykx 2 or 3, also like Pac did against morales, barrera, Bradley and jmm then fury would be goat

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      #22
      The jealousy toward Fury is unreal. His success and the fact that he is the greatest HW of all time must really eat away at some people. Just relax, put your personal hate aside, and enjoy the unbeatable GOAT that is Tyson KRONK Fury. Nash out. Nash resides in England with his Playstation and Netflix subscription.

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #23
        Originally posted by Get em up

        Greatness is exactly what we saw that night. It isnt always about technical ability and perfect boxing. It's called prize FIGHTING for a reason. Everybody will always remember Gatti/Ward trilogy but not for the technic. Its remembered for what both guys left in the ring. Good post brother some people just dont understand what we saw.
        Complete agree mate.

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          #24
          Originally posted by 15round

          How can one separate themselves from the division when they only have fought an awkward heavy puncher three times? Then there is Wallin and he hasn't been tested against anyone so we don't know what he can bring. Fury needs to fight at least two fights each year in the next three years with the best in the division to separate himself.
          He beat Klitschko in Germany, 18 defences, undefeated in 10 years.

          Then beat Wilder, in America, 10 defences, 41-0.

          What other current HW has accomplished anything comparable?

          He’s clearly separated himself from the rest.

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            #25
            Originally posted by 15round

            If Fury would have picked him apart and taken him in the later rounds without getting knocked down himself that would have established some greatness. The first Stiverne fight and Fury Wilder II are the only fights that I know where Wilders opponent did not go down or out. I thought Fury needed to put on a clinic to show he improved from the first two fights but he didn't.

            If Wilder was more skillful he should have finished off Fury after he knocked him down. Both fighters didn't separate them from the other heavyweights by this performance. After fighting Wilder twice Fury should have known how to wear him down and quickly take him out in the later rounds. He can still get hit but by being knocked down he opens himself up to the possibility that other fighters can also and unlike Wilder finish him off.
            You're ducking the question.

            Which means you're ashamed to admit that Frank Sanchez's performance is what you like, not fighting.

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              #26
              Originally posted by kushking
              Wilder v Fury was like watching bumfights vol 3 between boxcar shamus & red fox in his prime

              ,on the 1 hand it was a blast to watch seeing these 2 club each other like 2 neanderthals,but on the other hand it was a bit frustrating seeing Fury lower his skill levels to the point where he let Wilder repeatedly serve him a 2 piece meal right up the pipe like BJS at a gypsy sausage fest.
              Eh, you can nit-pick a bunch of fights with legendary fighters too.

              Foreman vs. Frazier 1, total bum fight between two brawlers.
              • Frazier a midget with no chin (6 flash knockdowns in 2rounds, where he got up each time) & no right hand, mainly throws lead left hooks LMAO. Bounces straight up and down with his head, hardly any side-to-side head movement and is thus a sucker for an uppercut. Didn't anyone ever teach Frazier to box? Where do they get these guys? This guy sucks.
              • Foreman cheating by repeatedly pushing Frazier with 2 hands whenever Joe got close, and the 4th knockdown was blatantly to the back of the head. Foreman with no quality power, can knock a weak-chinned guy down 6 times but has to rely on the ref to stop it because he can't get that guy out of there on his own. Foreman also got hit repeatedly with a lead left hook of all things, LMAO.
              • The '70s surely were a weak era if those 2 are considered greats from it. Frazier also beat Ali, which shows what a hype-job Ali was.

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                #27
                I know people like to try and make conversations out of nothing, or make hot takes for the sake of hot takes, but..Tyson Fury is quite clearly a great fighter. What people expected to happen..happened - Fury boxed his face off, and Wilder's elite/all-time power gave him a punchers chance when he landed.

                There's just no logical argument that can be made for Fury not being a great figher. He is - just watch him fight. That should be enough.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by revelated

                  You're ducking the question.

                  Which means you're ashamed to admit that Frank Sanchez's performance is what you like, not fighting.
                  No, honestly I didn't see that fight. I have never seen Sanchez fight. Thank you for warning me, but If he fights a worthy opponent I will tune in.

                  My favorite fight was the first Joshua Ruiz fight. It had all the drama that a fight can have by a fighter getting knocked down and coming back to take control of the fight. Ruiz was never in trouble after he put Joshua down and waited until he knew Joshua had nothing left to finish him. I expected Fury to know the same after he put Wilder down but he got knocked down in the fourth which questions him being in that same position against other top fighters like Usyk, Joshua, Ruiz and even Whyte. Wilder is a great puncher but he doesn't have finishing skills. If other fighters can put Fury down I know they will do better at finishing the fight than Wilder.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    He beat Klitschko in Germany, 18 defences, undefeated in 10 years.

                    Then beat Wilder, in America, 10 defences, 41-0.

                    What other current HW has accomplished anything comparable?

                    He’s clearly separated himself from the rest.
                    Klitshko was over the hill when he fought Fury and just a shell against Joshua which retired him. Even Klitshko admitted he had lost something after the Jennings fight.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 15round

                      No, honestly I didn't see that fight. I have never seen Sanchez fight. Thank you for warning me, but If he fights a worthy opponent I will tune in.

                      My favorite fight was the first Joshua Ruiz fight. It had all the drama that a fight can have by a fighter getting knocked down and coming back to take control of the fight. Ruiz was never in trouble after he put Joshua down and waited until he knew Joshua had nothing left to finish him. I expected Fury to know the same after he put Wilder down but he got knocked down in the fourth which questions him being in that same position against other top fighters like Usyk, Joshua, Ruiz and even Whyte. Wilder is a great puncher but he doesn't have finishing skills. If other fighters can put Fury down I know they will do better at finishing the fight than Wilder.
                      So you watched Fury/Wilder 3 after the fact? Because Sanchez fought on the same card. His stink out performance made people worried for the main event.

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