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  • Andrij
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    #31
    Originally posted by archiemoore1
    If Deontay quits now, he'll be known as another Wilder who got chinned, just like his brother Marcellus, another chinless bum. If Wilder continues, he risks more brain damage. No future opponent will be gun shy about busting his jaw, smashing his skull, because it's already been done before, so they'll go in believing they have a chance. That whole Boogeyman Bomb Squad mystique is gone. To these other guys, now Wilder is just another guy who can go, if u hit him right. So he's between a rock and a hard place now. His last two fights have already given him enough punishment to start slurring his words in another 10 years or so. What he's done to so many others b4, has now been done to him- brain damage. Some may disagree, but I think Wilder's biggest mistake was firing Mark Breland, but even before that, It was having Jay Deas as head trainer and Breland as 2nd fiddle. Deas should have been fired a long ass time ago and Breland should have been his only trainer from jump street. Hiring his former KO victim/home boy Malik was the 2nd dummy move. I didn't see any improvement, I saw fatigue, bulky slow twitch muscles, sloppy technique, & poor defense all night long. So continue on if u want, my man.. better dump Malik's ass too, but I'm sure he won't, because he prefers being kindly asked to do something instead being told/made to do something. And in Jay Deas and Malik, he has the ultimate yes men team, just what he likes
    Agree. They all saw now 3 ways on how to beat Wilder. Either outbox him, push him on the back foot or drag him into a dogfight.

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    • kafkod
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      #32
      Originally posted by Andrij
      His handlers will most likely pick opponents who are zero threats and have no punching power.
      That was exactly how they viewed Tyson Fury .... no punching power and zero threat after his 3 year drink and drugs binge.

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      • Liondw
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        #33
        It kinda surprises me how so many Americans don't support their fighters, especially aftican-americans. Thought I'd mention that.

        Anyway, Mike doesn't like Wilder because Deontay say he'd beat him. I don't think Wilder would have any chance, except catching him with big punches coming in.

        Mike was a great fighter in his prime, although he never beat Holyfield and Lewis, and never fought Bowe, which is a fight that could've gone either way perhaps.

        Fury is the man now at heavyweight, but don't start saying he's better than or as great as Cassius Clay/Ali, Foreman, Lewis, a prime Bowe, M.Tyson even, Holmes and J.Louis and Marciano. Perspective.

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        • BangEM
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          #34
          Originally posted by Andrij
          Who will be Wilder‘s next opponent ? Helenius,Kownacki ? So he is going back to fighting bums again. He may even give Molina a rematch.
          Breazeale 2
          Ortiz 3
          Arreola 2
          Stiverne 3

          And he’ll call it a day.

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            #35
            Originally posted by tritium_arma
            Wilder is the worst heavyweight champion ever. At first I thought it would be someone like John Ruiz but even he fought and beat the #4 or better ranked fighter during his reign. Wilder’s best win, Ortiz, was ranked #5 by ring. Every other win was against some bum ranked even worse.
            Stiverne was ranked #2 you idiot.

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            • Ry92
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              #36
              Wilder vs joyce fury vs ortiz or white, fury face winner usyk vs aj then wilder faces the loser then boom wilder mando probably multiple belts. Fury retires by then I dont see em fighting the younger legit lions yoko hrgovic thats to me better than some frank sanchez or joyce dubois, yet dont hear there names much

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              • Stuntman Mike
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                #37
                Originally posted by Andrij

                Wilder fanboys said the same before the last fight. Fury beat him up and stopped him twice in a row. Wilder is getting older and worse after such beatings. Even Fury´s jabs wobbled Wilder at times so his punch resistance will decrease in future fights. His handlers will most likely pick opponents who are zero threats and have no punching power.
                You really feel the need to explain that Fury has wilders number to this idiot...

                How many times does fury have to beat this no skilled bum

                And BTW fury Is the definition of a hype job beating this walking corpse 3 times

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                • Andrij
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                  You really feel the need to explain that Fury has wilders number to this idiot...

                  How many times does fury have to beat this no skilled bum

                  And BTW fury Is the definition of a hype job beating this walking corpse 3 times
                  Well Emanuel Steward said back in 2012 that Fury will be the next dominant Heavyweight after Klitschko. Steward was right. He is the best of this generation.

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                  • NachoMan
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by archiemoore1
                    If Deontay quits now, he'll be known as another Wilder who got chinned, just like his brother Marcellus, another chinless bum. If Wilder continues, he risks more brain damage. No future opponent will be gun shy about busting his jaw, smashing his skull, because it's already been done before, so they'll go in believing they have a chance. That whole Boogeyman Bomb Squad mystique is gone. To these other guys, now Wilder is just another guy who can go, if u hit him right. So he's between a rock and a hard place now. His last two fights have already given him enough punishment to start slurring his words in another 10 years or so. What he's done to so many others b4, has now been done to him- brain damage. Some may disagree, but I think Wilder's biggest mistake was firing Mark Breland, but even before that, It was having Jay Deas as head trainer and Breland as 2nd fiddle. Deas should have been fired a long ass time ago and Breland should have been his only trainer from jump street. Hiring his former KO victim/home boy Malik was the 2nd dummy move. I didn't see any improvement, I saw fatigue, bulky slow twitch muscles, sloppy technique, & poor defense all night long. So continue on if u want, my man.. better dump Malik's ass too, but I'm sure he won't, because he prefers being kindly asked to do something instead being told/made to do something. And in Jay Deas and Malik, he has the ultimate yes men team, just what he likes
                    You're arguing that Deontay Wilder has no chin?!? The dude showed an incredible chin, grit, endurance, desire, etc in both beatings he got from Fury. You can point to a dozen other technical deficiencies in Wilder, but if you think his chin is his problem, then you don't know what you're watching. Also, Mark Breland was with Deontay for YEARS. If he wasn't able to teach what he needed to know by then, then he obviously isn't a good match as a trainer. You can blame that on Wilder if you want, but what fighter did Mark Breland ever bring up as a head coach? Please don't say Vernon Forrest. Mark Breland was a successful amateur and pro fighter, but he's not proven himself to be anything but an assistant trainer and spit bucket guy in the coaching side of the sport. As far as Malik Scott goes, he couldn't change Wilder over night, but he definitely has Deontay's ear and his respect because Wilder was clearly trying his best to do what Malik had trained him to do.
                    Last edited by NachoMan; 10-30-2021, 10:14 AM.

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                      #40
                      Hearn paid incels try to hijack every topic, trash the 2 guys who gave us the best HW fight in years, and steer this about their fallen Joshua. Joshua who is at best this generation’s Michael Moorer. #3 or 4. Who has the optical illusion of popularity because of weirdo lil brother syndrome UK nationalism. It’s like saying BTS is better than Radiohead. And then there is Eddie’s other joke heavyweight Whyte. Know the difference between Jarell Miller & Whyte? Miller had never been flattened & KTFO

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