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  • #51
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

    Yordenis Ugas wanted to fight Crawford and would have done it on ESPN. For a relatively low purse too.
    Completely true ... and it would still be heck-uva fight.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Bronx23 View Post

      Ahhh okay I got it. So…. Buds gonna get wobbled or knocked out by the guy who in 10 years has only knocked out a journeyman, a washed Paulie Malinaggi, & a washed Andre Berto (who quit because of headbutts). - All because he debuted at a lower weight than Porter.

      Makes sense.. but wait! Didn’t Broner debut at 130? & didn’t he drop Porter who’s debut was at 154? Interesting…
      See, that's your problem.

      Your're going back to Broner dropping Porter, which was more about Porter taking Broner lightly than Broner, but let's go with it.

      Two guys have dropped Porter. Spence and Broner.

      Porter washed Broner and damn near beat Spence, and both times he was dropped, got up and was just as strong if not stronger.

      Spence is one of the hardest hitters of the division, and yet a flush cross that put Porter down couldn't keep him down.

      Crawford has not chinned anyone at welter. Even Amir Khan, who everyone says has a glass jaw, got up off Crawford's chin check and went right back to jabbing the hell out of him. Crawford was forced to resort to a blatant low blow to get Khan out of there.

      This is the ghost of the version of Khan that Danny Swift sparked out in half the time.

      The point, sir, is that Crawford doesn't have knockout power. He swarms you and eventually gets the ref to stop the fight. He's never fought any other way.

      That won't work against a master of the swarming craft. The Linebacker.

      You shall see.
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      • #53
        Originally posted by revelated View Post

        See, that's your problem.

        Your're going back to Broner dropping Porter, which was more about Porter taking Broner lightly than Broner, but let's go with it.

        Two guys have dropped Porter. Spence and Broner.

        Porter washed Broner and damn near beat Spence, and both times he was dropped, got up and was just as strong if not stronger.

        Spence is one of the hardest hitters of the division, and yet a flush cross that put Porter down couldn't keep him down.

        Crawford has not chinned anyone at welter. Even Amir Khan, who everyone says has a glass jaw, got up off Crawford's chin check and went right back to jabbing the hell out of him. Crawford was forced to resort to a blatant low blow to get Khan out of there.

        This is the ghost of the version of Khan that Danny Swift sparked out in half the time.

        The point, sir, is that Crawford doesn't have knockout power. He swarms you and eventually gets the ref to stop the fight. He's never fought any other way.

        That won't work against a master of the swarming craft. The Linebacker.

        You shall see.
        Come on man, I understand you don't like Bud, but if you watched the Khan fight he was outboxing Khan np.
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        • #54
          Originally posted by revelated View Post

          See, that's your problem.

          Your're going back to Broner dropping Porter, which was more about Porter taking Broner lightly than Broner, but let's go with it.

          Two guys have dropped Porter. Spence and Broner.

          Porter washed Broner and damn near beat Spence, and both times he was dropped, got up and was just as strong if not stronger.

          Spence is one of the hardest hitters of the division, and yet a flush cross that put Porter down couldn't keep him down.

          Crawford has not chinned anyone at welter. Even Amir Khan, who everyone says has a glass jaw, got up off Crawford's chin check and went right back to jabbing the hell out of him. Crawford was forced to resort to a blatant low blow to get Khan out of there.

          This is the ghost of the version of Khan that Danny Swift sparked out in half the time.

          The point, sir, is that Crawford doesn't have knockout power. He swarms you and eventually gets the ref to stop the fight. He's never fought any other way.

          That won't work against a master of the swarming craft. The Linebacker.

          You shall see.
          You’re all over the place.

          Yet still haven’t supplied any type of valid argument to dispute my original comment which was - Porter is not a big puncher. I’ve given several points that validate my claim.

          I never made any claim about Buds power - which by the way is greater than Porters.

          You also said he doesn’t have knockout power but then said he gets stoppages by swarming. (Makes zero sense) Then you say Porter is the master swarmer but he’s only stopped 3 people in 10 years.

          By your logic Spence doesn’t have knockout power either.

          It’s clear you have a clear disdain for Bud for whatever reason. And you’ve made yourself look quite silly. That said, I’ll be curious to see what you have to say when Bud beats Porter

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          • #55
            hes way bigger than porter, faster, a better boxer

            He will dominate porter--bud should fight at 154

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            • #56
              Originally posted by DeryckAtlanta View Post

              Come on man, I understand you don't like Bud, but if you watched the Khan fight he was outboxing Khan np.
              Low blows are not outboxing.

              By that logic Andrew Golota is an ATG.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Bronx23 View Post

                You’re all over the place.

                Yet still haven’t supplied any type of valid argument to dispute my original comment which was - Porter is not a big puncher. I’ve given several points that validate my claim.

                I never made any claim about Buds power - which by the way is greater than Porters.

                You also said he doesn’t have knockout power but then said he gets stoppages by swarming. (Makes zero sense) Then you say Porter is the master swarmer but he’s only stopped 3 people in 10 years.

                By your logic Spence doesn’t have knockout power either.

                It’s clear you have a clear disdain for Bud for whatever reason. And you’ve made yourself look quite silly. That said, I’ll be curious to see what you have to say when Bud beats Porter
                I have no disdain for him, I'm just not impressed by a guy that got his eye closed by, and lost ALL four rounds against, the unmotivated, timid ghost of Kell Brook.

                You can be impressed by that..

                Me?? He has to get
                • Clean, clear knockout
                • Clean, clear stoppage, not a BS ref stoppage
                • Blowout, at least 9 rounds clearly won
                if he can't do any of those, he's just another fighter.

                And yes, the standard is different for Crawford, because you guys think this guy is the number one pound for pound. OK then, the bar is raised. Unless you guys want to come back down to reality and stop calling him that, because you know he isn't. He hasn't proven it, and I strongly doubt he will against Shawn Porter.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
                  I saw the interview, Crawford was frustrated with reporters trying to create controversy.

                  As for the fight, it was a challenge and I thought Crawford should have been charged a knock down and wasn't. More importantly, Kavaliauskas didn't just get clipped, Crawford broke down and beat him badly enough were Kavaliauskas is not the same.

                  Porter IMO is very strong like Kavaliauska but smarter, Porter is something different.
                  Porter is going to get his Ass beat and it won’t be a fight. Spence you’re next you droopy eyed ******* sniffing denture wearing drunk.

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                  • #59
                    Oh wow he finally admitted that he got knocked down hehehe
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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Bronx23 View Post

                      Spence has been with PBC for how long and couldn’t get a Thurman fight. He had a belt & was under the same banner. Thurman didn’t want it so it didn’t happen.

                      My argument still holds true none of these guys have ever called out Crawford. He has been calling them out. His team has made offers to Porter, Danny & Thurman. They all said the money wasn’t right but never countered. Never approached Crawford with an offer to call his bluff.

                      Why does Crawford have to chase them? He’s the champ. Why is the champ chasing challengers? Why don’t they leave PBC to pursue a fight with him? Why should Crawford have to leave his promoter to fight them ? - When Fury and Wilder both have fought twice under different promotions. Its just another excuse to not fight. It’s up to the fighters. If they really wanna fight they can make it happen. None of them wanna fight him though.
                      He has to chase them because they had the belts! He got his title beating Jeff Horn! So to prove himself, he needed to go where the action was! Like I said, you don't go to the Canadian Football League, and then say "I'm the best! If Tom Brady wants some, he can come to Canada!" Thank God for the WBO, or this fight wouldn't have happened either!

                      Bob Arum On Crawford Vs. Porter: ‘Who’s Going To Pay For It?’
                      May 25, 2021

                      Terence Crawford’s promoter Bob Arum says he’d like to put a big fight together between him and his #1 contender Shawn Porter with the WBO, but he questions who would pay for the fight.

                      If Arum’s Top Rank company took the risk and came up with the money themselves, it would be a gamble. Arum said recently that he’d lost enough money on Crawford’s fights to build a house in Beverly Hills.

                      Would boxing fans purchase tickets in high numbers to see the Crawford vs. Porter fight, and would they be willing to purchase it on ESPN PPV?
                      “We could make a big fight vs Porter, but who’s going to pay for it?” said Arum to The Athletic.

                      “There’s a limit to what I can get out of ESPN. And on PPV… Crawford’s never done anything on PPV. Nothing against him. It is what it is.”

                      https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-new...-for-it/179347



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                      Last edited by Bronx2245; 10-26-2021, 05:17 AM.
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