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  • Stuntman Mike
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    #131
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime






    the point that, Usyk did not win that fight because he put on a masterclass... Usyk won that fight because Joshua was... stiff... robotic... predictable... and timid

    you casuals are in for a BIG shock if Usyk ever fights Fury


    I have never seen a band-wagon fill up so fast






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    Fury diD not win the last wilder fight because he put on a masterclass but merely because he was fighting a guy that was gifted a belt and started boxing at 25

    Wilder the most predictable and clumsy person to ever be called a champion with Fury a close second in the clumsy department
    Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 10-25-2021, 04:34 AM.

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      #132
      Originally posted by boogbx
      USYK is a live dog. He presents a great chin, workrate and better movement than Wilder. Doesn’t pack the single punch to hurt Fury but can cut him up.

      I also have no doubt te can take what’s coming back if Fury lands. USYK is not an easy target like Wilder.
      I wouldn't be so sure that usyk can't hurt Fury.. everytime we've seen Fury hit he goes down quicker than a 2 dollar hooker... he was flattened by Steve cunningham who had no stoppages of top teir opposition even at cruiserweight nothing even remotely close to the drama o the kd he scored against fury either (usyk does)

      He was also flattened by pavjic a man that probably is sitting in a **** hole in a third world country rewatching the moment he splattered Fury wondering where he'd be right now if he had the ability to finish the job

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        #133
        Originally posted by Stuntman Mike
        Fury diD not win the last wilder fight because he put on a masterclass but merely because he was fighting a guy that was gifted a belt and started boxing at 25

        Wilder the most predictable and clumsy person to ever be called a champion with Fury a close second in the clumsy department





        Wilder... the guy Joshua was too scared to fight ?

        Wilder... the guy who would be 50/50 odds with Usyk ?

        Wilder... the guy I would pick to beat Usyk ?

        that Wilder... ???



        FACT: Wilder landed betsy on EVERY opponent who stepped in the ring with him, and he leveled them with it
        FACT: every opponent Usyk faced, hit Usyk with his best punch

        those two facts do not bode well for Usyk chances in a fight with Wilder, my pick would be Wilder







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          #134
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime






          Wilder... the guy Joshua was too scared to fight ?

          Wilder... the guy who would be 50/50 odds with Usyk ?

          Wilder... the guy I would pick to beat Usyk ?

          that Wilder... ???



          FACT: Wilder landed betsy on EVERY opponent who stepped in the ring with him, and he leveled them with it
          FACT: every opponent Usyk faced, hit Usyk with his best punch

          those two facts do not bode well for Usyk chances in a fight with Wilder, my pick would be Wilder







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          Usyk is far more elusive than fury ever has been ..people can't land they're dynamite punch on usyk ..Joshua had to tone down the power for speed just to land there's no way he lands that big right telegraphed hand on usyk when he will be training to take it away

          Far easier fight for usyk than Joshua ever was as he has a lot let tools to nullify ..Joshua has an arsenal of weapons,Wilder has one

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            #135
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime






            Usyk was having all sort of problems with Tony "average" Bellew

            Bellew was giving him fits, Usyk was behind on the official scorecards when that fight was stopped

            FACT: Fury is MUCH better - in EVERY department - than Bellew







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            Bellew went all in in the opening rounds and got ktfo in a horrific fashion. What exactly is your point? Even those score cards were hometown biased, not that it matters, Usyk took care of the situation.

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              #136
              Originally posted by Ropeydope
              Bellew went all in in the opening rounds and got ktfo in a horrific fashion. What exactly is your point? Even those score cards were hometown biased, not that it matters, Usyk took care of the situation.





              if a average cruiserweight gave Usyk fits, it is typical casual-fan ******ity to insist that a highly skilled 6'9" boxer/puncher who happens to be the best heavyweight on the planet, will not give Usyk fits

              Usyk will be a HUGE underdog in that fight LMAO

              Fury can win that fight any way he wants







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                #137
                Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                Usyk is far more elusive than fury ever has been ..people can't land they're dynamite punch on usyk ..Joshua had to tone down the power for speed just to land there's no way he lands that big right telegraphed hand on usyk when he will be training to take it away

                Far easier fight for usyk than Joshua ever was as he has a lot let tools to nullify ..Joshua has an arsenal of weapons,Wilder has one





                until Fury, it worked on EVERY single opponent he faced

                FACT: Usyk is not Tyson Fury

                against Fury... 70/30 to Fury

                against Wilder... 50/50, slightly leaning toward Wilder

                Joshua was slow, and timid... Fury and Wilder are neither of those things







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                  #138
                  I dont think Usyk can do it.

                  I wrote him off last time but AJ also fought a dumb fight and freezes up when things dont go his way. Usyk looked very ordinary vs a shot chisora.

                  Fury has more than one style, he can box from afar or he can crowd and use his size. Usyk also cant run because Fury can close the distance fast with his goofy ostrich legs.

                  Fury has more than one way to fight Usyk. But with Usyk's size, his only chance to fight Fury is extreme movement and boxing. Getting in range and either darting back out or using lateral movement. Hes got one strategy, Fury has 2.

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime






                    until Fury, it worked on EVERY single opponent he faced

                    FACT: Usyk is not Tyson Fury

                    against Fury... 70/30 to Fury

                    against Wilder... 50/50, slightly leaning toward Wilder

                    Joshua was slow, and timid... Fury and Wilder are neither of those things







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                    thats the thing, if it was so easy to just box and not get hit and get that UD, everyone would be doign it with wilder but its not that easy and Fury got dropped both boxing him and also in fighting with him. If fury didnt have elite recuperative abilities he would be 1 and 2 with Wilder.

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                      #140
                      Lol. People comparing Usyk to Toney in another thread... Totally neglecting the level of competition faced by Toney. Similar thing here... Usyk is remarkable. He did something outstanding in making adjustments to his approach after Chisora. BUT in a division where most is shiat one has to be circimspect when comparing Tyson Fury, who isn't shiat... to Usyk. Just like comparing Usyk to a great fighter totally neglecting the difference in levels of competition fought.

                      Making adjustments and having a set of skills that can be imposing (literally)... as in... a fighter who is heads above can impose himself on fighters who are below. But there are levels to the game. And Fury is not a fighter that can be easily imposed upon... Great fighters are like that, they do things to stop what you are doing to be effective.

                      People who do not see the genius of how Fury beat Vlad are just not seeing subtlety. Why get into a punch out when you can use feints, timing, and a few well placed punches to win the match? Charley Burley who we have limited film of, beat fighters throwing 5 punches a round... what do people think that a fighter that averaged 150 punches a round would do that against Burley? Lol... The best defense is one that stops the punch before it comes...

                      I don't even know how Usyk versus Fury plays out... have not analyzed it carefully yet... But I can tell you this: Usyk is not hitting Fury with a ton of punches at will like he did Joshua... not jumping a gear at will. If he has a chance at winning, it will come from figuring out a way to catch Fury now and then... adjusting to the difference in reach to do so.

                      Fury has a back leg game... So intelligent men of Boxing Scene ask yourself this question, who has Usyk fought that has a respectable back leg game? Mike HUnter? Maybe Bellew? Not really... Bellew just has excellent shoulder and head movement. How is Usyk going to get to a Fury planted on his back leg? throwing a jab when Usyk changes angles/resets?

                      My point is... if you think this through, one thing is for sure: regardless of who wins, Usyk will not do what he did to Joshua.
                      Last edited by billeau2; 10-25-2021, 09:16 PM.

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