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Dawson was drained at a weight he hadn't fought for in 6 years that his trainer advised against. Carl Froch is a decent but unspectacular fighter. Arthur Abraham was mediocre at super middle weight.
Having said that I think Ward vs Calzaghe would be a very close fight. I think Breadman thinks it would be a best of three type of fight.Comment
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What are you talking about? Ward beat Dawson 2nd, Pascal did it 1st. Pascal beat the UNDEFEATED Dawson at 175 and Ward beat the drained version at 168. Sure Ward stopped Dawson (at 168) but nobody beat Dawson more clearly than Stevenson who KO'd Dawson in 1 Round...
SO please tell me wtf youre talking aboutComment
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My bad. I forgot about Pascal... yes he did beat Dawson first. I was mistaken. Ward beat his opposition in his division resolutely, he won his fights with ease, dominating in a division traditionally stacked with talent... Guys like Froch... Dawson was an excellent fighter and everyone assumes Ward won because of Dawson's "drained" condition. If you watch how Ward won that fight it is a technical masterpiece. He keeps shooting a left hook below Dawson's temple. Dawson keeps responding by lowering the hand just a bit each time. eventually Ward has Dawson lowering his hand past the sweet spot for the blow. When this happens he knocks Dawson for a loop with that same left hook. Watch the fight... that is why Ward won that fight... Superior technical strategy and ability.Comment
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It never ceases to amaze me how people are willing to conviently change the ability of a fighter to make excuses, or justify an opinion.. Heres the truth: At that time the guys above were considered excellent fighters... Solid, no nonsense winners... guys like Kessler, Froch and Abrahms who had fought through a broken jaw... the division was considered very strong and not only wasn't Ward predicted to win the tournament... it was supposed to be close.
People just forget this... And Ward did not WIN the tournament... He dominated the tournament. He made it a wash.Comment
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Ward would have bullied Slappy Joe. Muscled him around the ring landing shots from unexpected angles and at unexpected moments, varying the range. Clinching when Joe thinks they're throwing and then releasing once Joe accedes to the clinch and then punching him up on the way out. Wears him down, frustrates him and then stops him late. To think Calzaghe would beat S.O.G. is ludicrous.Comment
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What are you talking about? I dont think it was the work rate of Kovalev that made Ward struggle. Besides after 6 rounds he was not quite as dominant which was a combination of his work rate subsiding and Ward figuring him out but i cant hate he did win the first fight..
Joe was good but not Ward good. Hopkins and Roy jones beats him also in their prime of course. Joe had an unmatchable engine though, but those slaps are not stopping the three fighters i mentionedComment
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Kovalev was also considered the boogeyman and he went up in weight to challenge him.....fury wouldn't punch his opponents in the nuts but he would continually hold when up close, get his man in a headlock, hit his opponent when the ref has asked him to separate. however it is what it is I'm not complaining and you are definitely not yet you complain about Ward not standing in one spot to get punched.
As for Wlad he didn't avenge all his losses so you are wrong there too. Ward did if you want to count the Kovalev first fight. Ward too dominated 98% of his opponents. He didn't have dynamite in his fists to turn to like Wlad. He was strong, tough, smart and half white if that criteria means so much to youComment
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