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  • #41
    Originally posted by Ry92 View Post
    Wilder beats whyte n aj , quicker longer reach more power n theyre chinny get dropped hurt by ppl half wilder power all the time for aj it seems. only person to get back up from a wilder shot is fury whos bigger by 40-50lbs longer n just as quick. Usyk vs wilder to me the best match at heavyweight .usyk similar size to ortiz now quicker better iq younger by 10-12 yrs . ortiz schooled wilder til his 45 yr old legs n cardio gave way 2 issues wont see from usyk. Better ? When wilder lands can usyk get back up. Only fury did n wilder usually will land atleast 1 to drop u in the fight.
    I do think Wilder is likely to beat AJ but don't forget Povetkin hits very hard, very good boxer, almost had never been stopped and is fast and AJ stopped him despite having his knees dipped early on. AJ does not have a good chin but he's done very well in the HW division so far and has a lot of experience in big fights, The Usyk fights will only make him better. It's actually possible Wilder could get exposed

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post

      I do think Wilder is likely to beat AJ but don't forget Povetkin hits very hard, very good boxer, almost had never been stopped and is fast and AJ stopped him despite having his knees dipped early on. AJ does not have a good chin but he's done very well in the HW division so far and has a lot of experience in big fights, The Usyk fights will only make him better. It's actually possible Wilder could get exposed
      Ruiz hurt em as well whyte hurt em the list goes onwilder hits harder than them all added the longer reach n quicker on feet than aj. Usyk would make aj better to a degree but can coach natural strength length speed or a chin.usyk vs wilder the better fight .
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      • #43
        Originally posted by Ry92 View Post

        Ruiz hurt em as well whyte hurt em the list goes onwilder hits harder than them all added the longer reach n quicker on feet than aj. Usyk would make aj better to a degree but can coach natural strength length speed or a chin.usyk vs wilder the better fight .
        That's true but AJ won all those fights (at least the Ruiz rematch). But you could say even Breazeale hurt Wilder before he got stopped. I would say AJ is at least a good enough boxer to take WIlder's right hand away from him at times. Also Fury isn't as good a boxer as people think. The skill level in that last fight was pretty low in terms of boxing skill itself. I just want to see AJ and Wilder fight and it was Wilder who finally admitted he turned AJ down when he had all the belts. After saying for years AJ was running from him. So Wilder was actually lying to avoid AJ. So let's see the fight - it can be a loser face-off. I think we both agree Usyk will most likely beat Aj in rematch
        Last edited by Roberto Vasquez; 10-15-2021, 11:21 AM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post
          Young Edward will always be bitter at wilder for not signing with dayzin
          Damn
          You don't miss an Eddie Hearn article
          Lololololol
          #MatchroomBiggestFan

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
            Another fun fact any champion or even former champion which unfortunately happens to be one individual he has landed Betsy multiple times and lost every time......Just saying





            Wilder did not lose every time, Wilder only lost to Tyson Fury... none of those other guys are as big, or as complicated, as Fury

            I give Joshua very little chance to beat Wilder... FACT: Wilder will land betsy on AJ... THAT IS A FACT... we all saw how Ruiz and Usyk made AJ look like bambi on ice, Wilder would level him... 70/30 Wilder

            I would actually give Whyte more chance than Joshua, simply because he is tougher... but I think Wilder would level him as well... 60/40 Wilder


            Usyk has the best chance, but he would need to be perfect for 12 rounds... Wilder can win that fight with one punch






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            • #46
              Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
              Problem with Wilder is he has fought so few decent (non old) fighters it's hard to know how he would fair against more conventional HWs. Even Fury was a cherry-pick - old and fat and retired. If we had at least seen Wilder against Whyte we would have an idea but he spend 600+ days running from that fight. It does suggest Wilder doesn't have much confidence in himself

              It does seem that AJ in particular would be vulnerable to Wilder but AJ boxed VERY well for a HW against Usyk. (Usyk is just better) So I'd say AJ still has a good chance in that fight. Wilder is very fast and excellent at landing his right hand so he can beat anyone on his day but I'd pick Usyk to beat him for sure
              I'm glad someone else has managed to not fall for the rewritten history on the Joshua v Usyk fight.

              It was a high level boxing matchup, with an incredibly talented fighter deservedly winning.

              Somehow, discussion on Joshua trying to box Usyk has turned into 'Joshua was terrible against Usyk'. He wasn't, he was actually very good. It was an excellent fight. The question is whether he had the wrong tactics and can adjust in the rematch.
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              • #47
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post






                Wilder did not lose every time, Wilder only lost to Tyson Fury... none of those other guys are as big, or as complicated, as Fury

                I give Joshua very little chance to beat Wilder... FACT: Wilder will land betsy on AJ... THAT IS A FACT... we all saw how Ruiz and Usyk made AJ look like bambi on ice, Wilder would level him... 70/30 Wilder

                I would actually give Whyte more chance than Joshua, simply because he is tougher... but I think Wilder would level him as well... 60/40 Wilder


                Usyk has the best chance, but he would need to be perfect for 12 rounds... Wilder can win that fight with one punch






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                OK Fury granted is better than all of them so lets push him to one side. However , Fury has given all fighters the game plan to beat Wilder. You talk about Wilder hitting AJ which i agree he will but whats even more definite is that AJ Will also hit Wilder and with WILDER'S lack of defence its more of a Guarantee that AJ finds him and hurts him.

                I do feel Wilder deals with Whyte fairly easily even if WHYTE dominates. i see that fight going similar to the ORTIZ fight. I Think Usyk beats WILDER easily he has the boxing brain to box to instructions and Wilder would be too predictable to land anything on USYK. Wilder needs to lose a stone as he is having severe stamina problems. he punches himself out within 4 rounds.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post

                  OK Fury granted is better than all of them so lets push him to one side. However , Fury has given all fighters the game plan to beat Wilder. You talk about Wilder hitting AJ which i agree he will but whats even more definite is that AJ Will also hit Wilder and with WILDER'S lack of defence its more of a Guarantee that AJ finds him and hurts him.

                  I do feel Wilder deals with Whyte fairly easily even if WHYTE dominates. i see that fight going similar to the ORTIZ fight. I Think Usyk beats WILDER easily he has the boxing brain to box to instructions and Wilder would be too predictable to land anything on USYK. Wilder needs to lose a stone as he is having severe stamina problems. he punches himself out within 4 rounds.





                  I don't think that is more of a guarantee at all

                  against the much smaller, much less abrasive, Usyk... Joshua was timid, just like he was in the rematch with Ruiz... he is probably done at the top level, especially if he loses to Usyk... because if he does lose to Usyk, I cant see him putting on the kind of performance that will enhance his reputation... like Wilder did with Fury

                  I actually think there is little to no chance AJ will ever take that fight






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                  • #49
                    Wilder has appeared very vulnerable in his last two fights .So he should have every fighter lining up just wanting to fight him now.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                      Wilder has appeared very vulnerable in his last two fights .So he should have every fighter lining up just wanting to fight him now.





                      fighters are a LOT smarter than fans

                      Wilder appeared extremely dangerous, even if you happen to be 6'9 and a great boxer... and he also appears to have a huge heart, and iron will

                      I think Wilder may struggle to find good opponents... because he does not hold a title, and he is not a huge payday

                      there are no longer too many good reasons to get put into a coma by Wilder

                      he may need to put in some work and position himself for mandatories







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