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  • #61
    1. Fury
    2. Usyk
    3. Joshua
    4. Ruiz
    5a. Whyte
    5b. Wilder

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    • #62
      Fury
      Josh
      usyk
      Whythe
      wilder

      I will keep Josh ahead of usy k as Josh has better resume at heavyweight. It's not about h2h
      Last edited by hugh grant; 10-15-2021, 02:26 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Get em up View Post

        Your list seems more logical than any of the others I've seen and there is a solid argument that your right on the money. Oddly enough a case could be made for any one of the 4 on top to beat any one of the others at the top.
        Yeah... that's the thing, it's tough to be absolute with what we know

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        • #64
          Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

          Yeah... that's the thing, it's tough to be absolute with what we know
          From what we've all seen from those 4 they stand out from the rest and every one of them have strengths and weaknesses that play into each other to make killer match ups if they would just sign on the dotted line
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Get em up View Post

            From what we've all seen from those 4 they stand out from the rest and every one of them have strengths and weaknesses that play into each other to make killer match ups if they would just sign on the dotted line
            There has been for a while a fear of losing. If one looks at the best fighters they lost. Promoters encourage goose egg fever as well...

            I hope things pick up so the prospects get their chances as well.

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            • #66
              1. Tyson Fury
              2. Oleksandr Usyk
              3. Anthony Joshua
              4. Deontay Wilder



              5. Everyone Else.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                There has been for a while a fear of losing. If one looks at the best fighters they lost. Promoters encourage goose egg fever as well...

                I hope things pick up so the prospects get their chances as well.
                Lewis lost his 26th fight the media never let up on him until he fought Tyson as it was a hugely U.S dominated sport to . I think it’s more what the media portrays . I think what saved A.J is he took the immediate rematch and won .

                Prospects today step up much sooner because of social media pressure.
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-15-2021, 06:48 PM.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by lopetego View Post
                  1. Fury
                  2. Usyk
                  3. Wilder
                  4. Joshua
                  5. Ruiz


                  What a garbage heavyweight era we have

                  The Klitschkos were the last true great heavyweights

                  Garbage because you say so?

                  Wlads era was weak, this is a strong era.

                  And those names are your list. If we look at most top 20 lists, there are a bunch of good fights to be made.

                  Weak division was the excuse the haters made when Fury bodied Wlad.



                  Now you want to push that old narrative after several of the most competitive and exciting fights in probably 20 years? Laughable.

                  Fury
                  Povetkin
                  Ortiz Jr
                  Anderson
                  Sanchez
                  Coffie
                  Ajagba
                  Helenius
                  Usyk
                  Whyte
                  AJ
                  Joyce
                  Parker
                  Wallin
                  Yoka
                  Berlanga


                  Then people who half of these clowns would swear are bums, or shells, but who actually are competitive against 1/3 or greater odds the above list:
                  Arreola
                  Ustinov
                  Scott
                  Kownacki


                  a slew of fights can be made with just these names, big fights, and barn burners.

                  You don't even know why you think it's a weak era, you just repeat drivel some other mong rambled off. How is it a weak division? I'll take the champion of this era and put him against any champ from any other era.

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                  • #69
                    Fury
                    Wilder
                    Usyk
                    Joshua
                    Ruiz

                    there’s a massive gulf between 1 and everyone else tho.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

                      Lewis lost his 26th fight the media never let up on him until he fought Tyson as it was a hugely U.S dominated sport to . I think it’s more what the media portrays . I think what saved A.J is he took the immediate rematch and won .

                      Prospects today step up much sooner because of social media pressure.
                      The U.S media was nasty to Lewis for ages... Everyone was going to teach Lewis a lesson... merchant with the ole "when will Lewis fight an American heavyweight" routine... As though that were some self evident milestone...

                      The Media are ultimately sychophants to the talking heads...Minus those who write about and truly understand the sport.

                      Prospects DO step up sooner, this is true. They also start a lot later and this is what hurts talent. In days gone by, when there was one belt, and when to be the heavyweight champion of the world meant exclusion... and where any champion was in rarified company, regardless of the division... guys were fighting golden gloves then professional in their late teens, by the time they were in their midtwenties they were climbing the ladder. Also, guys fought a lot more.

                      My solution would be to have guys fight more... learn the skills in the ring, and learn the distinction between a goal of landing clean, flush shots, and slogging through all situations to land effictive shots. Instead of focusing on a perfect hook with the right part of the glove... focusing on having a big bald Gypsy KIng trying to smother you... getting your hips under his, moving into profile position enough to avoid the uppercut and shoot with the far hand to land shots...

                      I base my ideas on when MMA came out to the Bay Area here and one of my students was involved with a major club that was participating. As a favor to him (MMA was never my forte) I worked with a few of the guys who were competing. What you notice is that whatever the base art used is... and there were a lot of Gracie Guys, San Da guys... Guys have to get experience and modify it for the ring. For example, instead of trying to kick a man's leg from the grapple, stomp and try to break his toes... much more effective in the ring, would not be effective in the street lol. But with bare feet, in a ring, to make a guy move his leg, it is effective... I know it sounds mean spirited... but broken toes and fingers heal ok... I damn neat dislocated every finger on both my hands through the years lol.

                      Amatuer fighters, different styles all have to adapt to fighting professional prize fighting rules... and experience is a great teacher.




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