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    In the aftermath of Tyson Fury's win over Deontay Wilder, someone who should know better got up at the post-fight press conference and asked Fury where he would rate himself against the greatest heavyweights of all time. For a moment, Fury contemplated a moment of rare modesty, paying tribute to names from John L Sullivan to Anthony Joshua, before concluding that he would beat them all.
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    Bakhodir Jalolov! 6'7" 27 year-old Uzbek Southpaw, fighting out of Brooklyn! Could be interesting?

    What boxing's biggest division looks like ahead of a momentous month of fights
    Mike Coppinger
    September 23, 2021

    Bakhodir Jalolov (8-0, 8 KOs, 27 years old)

    ESPN ranking: Unranked

    Despite having only eight pro fights, Jalolov competed in his second Olympics this summer and this time came out on top, defeating American Richard Torrez to claim the super heavyweight gold medal.

    Now, Jalolov returns to the paid ranks with his sights on a heavyweight title run. He's massive at 6-foot-7, 250 pounds southpaw, has shown tremendous power, and, of course, has the amateur pedigree.

    He's living and training in Brooklyn. He's promoted by Lou DiBella, with Vadim Kornilov guiding his career.

    https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...yk-fury-wilder


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    • #3
      The suggestion has been made that after beating Wilder, Fury has "no more to prove".


      Hang on, this is a boxer who has competed in four world heavyweight title fights, three of them against the same opponent. Four world title fights is fewer than Rocky Marciano, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Mike Weaver and Herbie Hide. And how could he have "no more to prove" when there is another unbeaten world champion in the very same division as him?
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      Good one Mr. Lewis! Tyson Fury can retire now, one WBC HW title defense is enough. This fat-hobo will travel anywhere in the world but his own backyard to defend his championship ; the informed fan knows UKAD is the reason for this, another ban and the bum is gone for good.
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        BUT WHEN IDIOTS HAD LOMACHENKO AS THE NUMBER ONE P4P IN THE WORLD IDIOTS IN THIS WEBSITE INCLUDING KEITH IDEC DIDNT CARE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES PERSPECTIVE. THEY HAD NO PROBLEM HAVING LOMA AS THE BEST ‍♂️ WHY? WHO KNOWS. Color COMPLEXION??? PROBABLY
        Last edited by mexiFistology; 10-14-2021, 06:22 AM.

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        • #5
          Yes, it is true, it's meaningless, but once in a blue moon nice to chat about for fun. Take your pick of pound for pound, but Fury is the king of all boxing (baddest man on the planet), and the best heavyweight since Lennox Lewis.

          I don't think he could beat Lewis, but he's the best since him. I don't know how he would fare against a prime Mike Tyson, Bowe and Holyfield. I would favour them against Fury, but it's just my opinion.

          I think Fury could have a few more fights before retirement, such as against Usyk, Joshua, Whyte and perhaps a young prospect like Jared Anderson, whom he sparred against.

          I do rate Frank Sanchez but not that highly that I think he would be much of a threat to Fury, or Usyk.
          Last edited by Liondw; 10-14-2021, 06:11 AM.

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          • #6
            P4P is about as legitimate as fantasy fights across eras. Or as legitimate as 'lineal' titles in limited weight classes.

            If you really need to have a guy who you can call the best in the world, it's the heavyweight champion. And even then, we've currently got two. Well that's if you don't include regular, interim etc.

            Welcome to boxing, a sport that generates more opinions than it does facts.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Liondw View Post
              Yes, it is true, it's meaningless, but once in a blue moon nice to chat about for fun. Take your pick of pound for pound, but Fury is the king of all boxing (baddest man on the planet), and the best heavyweight since Lennox Lewis.

              I don't think he could beat Lewis, but he's the best since him. I don't know how he would fare against a prime Mike Tyson, Bowe and Holyfield. I would favour them against Fury, but it's just my opinion.

              I think Fury could have a few more fights before retirement, such as against Usyk, Joshua, Whyte and perhaps a young prospect like Jared Anderson, whom he sparred against.

              I do rate Frank Sanchez but not that highly that I think he would be much of a threat to Fury, or Usyk.
              Nah, I think that title goes to Canelo Alvarez! Fury was dropped 4 times in his last 3 fights, and has only one title in his weight class! Canelo is going for ALL FOUR at 168, and has already been Champ at 154, 160, and 175! Love him or hate him, Canelo is the King!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                Nah, I think that title goes to Canelo Alvarez! Fury was dropped 4 times in his last 3 fights, and has only one title in his weight class! Canelo is going for ALL FOUR at 168, and has already been Champ at 154, 160, and 175! Love him or hate him, Canelo is the King!
                Love him or hate him, he's the best in certain limited weight categories. He isn't the best in the world. That title is reserved for boxing's open category.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mexiFistology View Post
                  BUT WHEN IDIOTS HAD LOMACHENKO AS THE NUMBER ONE P4P IN THE WORLD IDIOTS IN THIS WEBSITE INCLUDING KEITH IDEC DIDNT CARE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES PERSPECTIVE. THEY HAD NO PROBLEM HAVING LOMA AS THE BEST ‍♂️ WHY? WHO KNOWS. Color COMPLEXION??? PROBABLY

                  Come again?? Fury’s the wrong ‘colour complexion’ to be considered P4P no.1 by boxing pundits is what you’re saying?

                  Is Loma’s very specific, slightly-tanned (relative to Fury) look precisely what boxing alumni are seeking in a P4P great, then?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Toffee View Post

                    Love him or hate him, he's the best in certain limited weight categories. He isn't the best in the world. That title is reserved for boxing's open category.
                    The list in question is called "pound for pound" for a reason.

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