Comments Thread For: Canelo Felt Conditioning and Lack of Movement Was Wilder's Downfall

[OldTerry]

I think Malik Scott is very knowledgeable and seems like a good trainer, but I was alarmed at Wilder looking so tired after ae coupler of rounds.

Too much bulk and not enough cardio, clearly. Not criticising his bravery, just the conditioning, although he somehow made it to round 11.

The extra bulk took away from Wilder's cardio and made him less mobile to boot. Proves the point that being bigger doesn't make you better and could even work against you.

[mjh1969]

All those training clips of wilder slipping shots, throwing combinations & hooks to the body had a lot of people fooled. He did none of that in the fight. All it showed is that he finally learned how to look good on the mitts which with enough practice, anyone can do.

What I don’t understand- you had all this time. You claimed that you had been working nonstop since the last fight. Then you got even more time when the fight got delayed. What the hell did you work on? Weightlifting? Bodybuilding? Where was the endurance training? What was the game plan? What was plan B or C or D? Where was the improved IQ? Better defense?

I didn’t see any improvement in Wilder- his foot work was still bad, that right hand was just as telegraphed as it had always been, his hands were too low & he was still stiff up top & catching every shot to his gloves or face. The only good thing I saw him do was jab to the body & completely throw fury off by coming out as aggressive as he did. But by round 3 he was already gassed.

Fury did exactly what he said he would do just like he did before the 2nd fight. While Team Wilder delivered of virtually nothing. & don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to kick the guy while he’s down. I just think he is surrounded by yes-men and enablers that only tell him what he wants to hear & stroke his ego. & for that reason he’ll never improve. No matter if it’s Malik Scott, Jay Deas or whoever. The fact that they’d rather watch him get the life beat out of him rather than stop the fight in order to save their job shows these guys don’t care about him nor do they know what the hell theyre doing. Too afraid to tell the man the hard uncomfortable truth

Excellent analysis. Very accurate assessment of Wilder. I think it would take at least two or three fights for Wilder to implement Scott's teaching of using a diversity of shots and attacks against his opponents. I believe that once Wilder got in the trenches with Fury and started getting hit a lot then it was easier for him to revert back to looking for a one punch knockout. This was evident once Wilder knocked Tyson down twice in round four. Wilder had energy but I believe it was Fury's one two combination and then hovering over Wilder over and over and over and over which tired him out. Wilder was more energetic in their first fight. By their second fight Fury started employed the hit and grab tactics and tied up Wilder on the ropes and wore him down slowly until he knocked him out in round seven. Fury used the exact same tactic on Wilder in their third fight. I think if Fury didn't grab and hold Wilder in both fights then their third fight would be more even. This tactic from Fury was a similiar tactic that Ali used against Foreman when he knocked him out in Zaire. Punch and grab. Wilder had no answer for Fury's punch and grab technique. I think Scott should have reviewed tactics for Wilder to use when Fury clinched with him. Hitting his body on the break and also rabbit punching Fury back would have even things out.

[baroidi]

I don't think any amount of road work Wilder does, will help him against a giant ogre like Fury. Fury just has to hold and lean on Wilder in the early rounds, huge amount of strain on Wilder's chicken legs will take its toll. Fortunately for Wilder, there isn't any HW that is as big and mobile as Fury so he can always land his equalizer punch early on.

[Smash]

how was wilder supposed to know he would still gas out without the the heavy costume, surely its up to his team to tell him he makes conor mcgregor look like a marathon runner

[Boxing Scene]

Maybe he needs to cheat like you, a straight up proven drug cheat. Maybe that's why you have stamina.

[Boxing Scene]

clenelo also said that beyonce wilder needed some of that PED meat to improve his conditioning LOL the same PED meat clenelo got busted for against golovkin.

Exactly. A drug cheat has no business giving other people advice. He should just shut up and continue cheating.

[pugil1st]

I don't think any amount of road work Wilder does, will help him against a giant ogre like Fury.

I don't think that's accurate. Look at the two KDs. Wilder couldn't even be happy about his accomplishments because he was dead-tired. He hurt Fury a few times and couldn't finish. If he had the stamina, it would have been more interesting. Not sayin he would have stopped Fury but definitely more interesting.

[ShoulderRoll]

Not only did Wilder lack conditioning and head movement, he also repeatedly dropped his guard and still didn't know what to do when he was forced to fight going backwards.

His punch variety is lacking too. It would help him if he could count on his left hook or uppercuts as much as he does on his right hand.

He has a lot to work on still. I don't know what Jay Deas has been doing all these years.

[archiemoore1]

Translation: Wilder doesn't have 12 round endurance and he doesn't know how to box

[4truth]

In the first fight, Wilder was still dangerous through the 12th round, he weighed in just under 213 lbs. The first fight he was the lightest of his career.
In the second fight, Wilder's legs had checked out by about round 4. The second fight he weighed in at 231 lbs., the heaviest of his career.

The 3rd fight, 238 lbs. WTF were they thinking??

I wanted to put money on Wilder but after the weigh in there was no way.