Comments Thread For: Canelo Felt Conditioning and Lack of Movement Was Wilder's Downfall

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #11
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg

    People watch them to lose? Who? What an odd comparison to compare Canelo and fury in such a way. People flood stadiums to watch Canelo because of nationalism and ethnic pride. He isn’t the most popular because people want to see him lose.
    Both guys have even more haters than fans.

    Both guys are the best in their division.

    Canelo can`t advise Wilder how to be the best heavyweight. Wilder is just not skilled enough.

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    • Bronx2245
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      #12
      Canelo is on point! Wilder was gassed after 4! "Can't teach an old dog, new tricks!"

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #13
        Originally posted by Bronx23
        All those training clips of wilder slipping shots, throwing combinations & hooks to the body had a lot of people fooled. He did none of that in the fight. All it showed is that he finally learned how to look good on the mitts which with enough practice, anyone can do.

        What I don’t understand- you had all this time. You claimed that you had been working nonstop since the last fight. Then you got even more time when the fight got delayed. What the hell did you work on? Weightlifting? Bodybuilding? Where was the endurance training? What was the game plan? What was plan B or C or D? Where was the improved IQ? Better defense?

        I didn’t see any improvement in Wilder- his foot work was still bad, that right hand was just as telegraphed as it had always been, his hands were too low & he was still stiff up top & catching every shot to his gloves or face. The only good thing I saw him do was jab to the body & completely throw fury off by coming out as aggressive as he did. But by round 3 he was already gassed.

        Fury did exactly what he said he would do just like he did before the 2nd fight. While Team Wilder delivered of virtually nothing. & don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to kick the guy while he’s down. I just think he is surrounded by yes-men and enablers that only tell him what he wants to hear & stroke his ego. & for that reason he’ll never improve. No matter if it’s Malik Scott, Jay Deas or whoever. The fact that they’d rather watch him get the life beat out of him rather than stop the fight in order to save their job shows these guys don’t care about him nor do they know what the hell theyre doing. Too afraid to tell the man the hard uncomfortable truth





        it takes a lot longer than one camp

        it needs to become instinctive... so when under pressure, tired, or hurt... you don't think, you react instinctively

        he was never going to change that much in one camp







        ...

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        • Sparked_26
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          #14
          Tbf to Wilder he gassed after 3. And still knocked Fury down twice which goes to show he's still a knockout puncher running on fumes. I think he hurt Fury in the 10th too which is nuts since Fury was beating him like a dog at that point.

          But yeah no world class boxer should be gassing that early. I think he just must have been extremely stressed and had a massive adrenaline dump. Saw a poster make that point the other day, it is the only thing that makes sense.

          Wilder wanted it that much he was half-gassed in the locker room in retrospect looks like what happened in the 2nd fight. Heavy costume and all.
          Last edited by Sparked_26; 10-13-2021, 06:33 AM.

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          • JimmyD729
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            #15
            Lack of Mexican meat

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            • Coachcody
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              #16
              When did heavyweights quit moving their feet like Holmes and Ali? Wilder has the feet work of a fighter from the year 1890...

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              • Corelone
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                #17
                Wilder doesn't need to run, he's blessed with natural stamina, or so he says. I say, there is no such thing, if you don't run, you can't run.

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                • Boxfan83
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                  #18
                  Wilder pulls his head back with his hands down, all Fury had to do was 1-2 or feint and go over the top with a 2 straiggt to Wilders ear.

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                  • anonymous2.0
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Coachcody
                    When did heavyweights quit moving their feet like Holmes and Ali? Wilder has the feet work of a fighter from the year 1890...
                    Because all the athletes that could compete at heavyweight are playing different sports that don't require them to get punched in the face

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                    • OGBIGSACK
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Griever0730
                      Too late for all that. He clearly didn't learn anything from the last whooping he took and the little he did, he used it for a round and a half before reverting back to his old ish and getting whooped again. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.
                      even that was being countered by fury. if wilder stuck with the body attack tyson was figuring it out as we saw at the end of the first round when he rocked wilder with a counter shot. fury had an answer for everything beyonce threw at him.


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