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  • #61
    The businessmen of boxing have always been shady. The sport has devolved into sides of the streets with promoters aligning with platforms to keep all the money in house. It’s bad for the sport which is bad for the fans. Unfortunately, all the hardcore geniuses around here just line up on the sides of the street and eat the **** up like it’s candy. Here we have a desirable fight that was ordered by a generally acquiescing sanctioning body, which we should acknowledge, applaud and demand more of the same from the powers that be. Instead a gang of creeps piling up more garbage talk about nonsense and nothing.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by thack View Post
      Bud was my man and is a great fighter but never appeared to want to fight Spence and Spence for his part didn't .Can you imagine Duran, Leonard and Hearns behaving this way!
      I have a coworker who is a boxing nerd like myself and we often talk about boxing. He made a good point the other day, a fact that maybe gets overlooked in the current state of boxing. He pointed out that Leonard and Hearns were
      23 and 24 years of age when they first fought each other. Damn how old are some of the fighters now that for some reason or another will not fight each other?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

        IMO that is the smart play. Arum is old and simply far too concerned with his own short term interests. Crawford needs to break away and map his own path similar to Canelo before he's too old.
        I doubt Bob let's him fight Taylor without an extension! It would be a big money fight in the UK, but Crawford vs. Ortiz Jr. is made for Las Vegas! Less fans, but more cash!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post

          You cannot rewrite history. The offer was 70-30 and that is more than fair. Spence is tops in the division whereas Crawford has yet to fight a top dog in the division. Crawford was demanding 50-50 which is laughable. Spence sells out arenas (Cowboys stadium) and Crawford field houses and High schools. Spence is a known commodity and does well on PPVs, Crawford is unknown and has tanked PPVs.

          Try again fan boi
          Spence said 70-30 or even 80-20 cut. So he offered 80-20. Crawford and Spence is the two best welterweights in the world. 50-50 cut makes perfect sense. Crawford became undisputed at 140 and he's a three-weight world champion. And offering 70-30 or 80-20 cut is a joke! It is Spence who didn't want to fight Crawford. It is PBC who act like Crawford doesn't exist!
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          • #65
            Originally posted by kushking View Post
            Listen to all these crawtards,Buds been bum hunting for half a decade meanwhile Spence has been fighting champions & top 5s,guys like Porter who will be Buds best win if he wins,& whom he ducked for over a year & was forced to fight/the end


            "Crawtards" How old are you 12. It's quite easy to **** all over Spence career if people want to, as happens to Bud, personally i wouldn't do that. He and Bud have achieved more than you or i could ever dream about in a boxing ring. I guess with the internet these days that's all some seem to do, They think they are boxing experts, when in reality they have done nada themselves.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by revelated View Post
              All but one of the repliers apparently forgot that this guy's own damn promoter told the world that he can't sell.

              He better stop overlooking Porter. I know that
              That's because all but one poster has the common sense to understand that a fighters job is to fight......not market........How do you knock a fighter who trains, sweats, bleeds, for the entertainment of a bunch of random idiots........Crawford stays prepared and professional and he handles his business as well as anyone in the ring. So much that EVERY SINGLE major boxing platform has him at or near the top of their p4p list..........

              If you have a fighter who's won 6 world titles across 3 divisions, was undisputed, has beaten 9 world champions, 7 by stoppage, and 4 were undefeated going into the fight. Has won Fighter of the year 2x and has won an ESPY Award...........and you still can't market him........then YOU are the one who can't do their job.....not the fighter.

              But again, only those who have common sense can understand that, meanwhile manfans of his 'so-called' rivals like to lean on Bob Arums little rant he made only because he got word that Crawford may be looking else where after his contract ends.

              I don't see you bringing up the fact that Bob Arum said that Al Haymon was purposely keeping his fighters away from Crawford. Bob Arum also said that Spence was afraid of Crawford because he knows he would lose that fight...........But you want to bring up a rant he made about Crawford hours after standing side by side with him as did a post press conference talking about how Crawford was the best fighter in the world..

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75 View Post

                He sells 150k ppv Spence 350k and a sold out stadium. I know math may not be a strong suit for you and business escapes your feeble mind but do I really need to explain it to you?
                Again, would you take it after being a unified champ, an undisputed champ, and an undefeated belt holder? Why was there NEVER anything sent over from Spence if he was so adamant of that pay?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by kushking View Post
                  Listen to all these crawtards,Buds been bum hunting for half a decade meanwhile Spence has been fighting champions & top 5s,guys like Porter who will be Buds best win if he wins,& whom he ducked for over a year & was forced to fight/the end
                  What top 5 guys has Spence fought?............

                  Spence wouldn't fight Thurman to unify......but he was more than willing to fight 2 guys who lost to Thurman (Porter & Danny)

                  Spence said that Crawford needs to prove himself at 147 regardless of him having a belt........but he was more than willing to fight a 135 lb champion forcing him to move up 2 divisions. (Mikey Garcia)......Let's not forget that Spence couldn't headline a PPV ticket until Mikey who has a HUGE latino following. If you are a legit boxing fan, you would understand what that means especially in the state of Texas.

                  Spence barely gets past Porter and has no desire to give him a rematch, but decides to fight a guy who lost to Porter (& Thurman)........Danny Garcia who had NO BELT.......(Crawford was available during the negotiations for this fight)

                  Let's look at Spence's other wins.........
                  -a DRAIN Kell Brook who was coming off a surgery he sustain from the previous fight vs GGG at 160.
                  -a old man/journyman in Lamont Peterson.....come on man
                  -Ocampo........need I say more

                  All this top 5 competition talk......who of those guys are elite welterweights...........I didn't even bring up the fact that Spence started his career at 154......and after about 10 or 12 fights dropped to welterweight. I was at the Larty fight in which he realized that his power would be more of a factor at 147 than it would at 154 because he hit Larty with everything and yet that boy stayed on his front porch.

                  Meanwhile.....Crawford fights at 132 in the amateurs......goes pro and fights at 135 and moves up from there and gets stronger and more dominant in the ring vs the heavier fighters. But he's the one bum hunting huh?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Antwuan LaMont View Post

                    That's because all but one poster has the common sense to understand that a fighters job is to fight......not market.
                    Wrong. Which is why at the first presser, Porter sold it while Crawford and BoMac acted like they really didn't want to be there.

                    The game is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE AT YOUR CURRENT WEIGHT CLASS TO A PRIME FIGHTER?

                    Crawford can't answer that question, bro. He went on DAZN and ducked Porter, refused to call out Ugas despite Ugas being available, chased Manny when his own promoter says he doesn't sell and he wouldn't get it, ducked Vergil Ortiz when he was called out for that, had BoMac run to Twitter and lie about Keef.

                    The guy's smoke and mirrors and he's got you fooled.

                    Meanwhile, Spence has beaten FOUR top 5 welterweights - regardless of whether you considered them Top 5, they were ranked Top 5 - in their prime.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by DFM View Post

                      Spence said 70-30 or even 80-20 cut. So he offered 80-20. Crawford and Spence is the two best welterweights in the world. 50-50 cut makes perfect sense. Crawford became undisputed at 140 and he's a three-weight world champion. And offering 70-30 or 80-20 cut is a joke! It is Spence who didn't want to fight Crawford. It is PBC who act like Crawford doesn't exist!
                      You speak as if he did this last year. The man unified over FOUR YEARS AGO. Think about that for a moment. Since he has moved up he has yet to face a top dog. Additionally, boxing is a business; not a charity. I’ll make it simple. Say you and I went into business together (just as two boxers face each other) I bring into the business 70% of the revenue to the venture and you 30%. There’d be a snowballs chance in hell I’d allow you to demand 50% of the revenue once that business venture took off. Well, TC brings nothing to the table but a single belt. His PPV numbers are lousy and the seats Spence sells are far greater than TC yet you think he should get 50%?

                      In what world do you live in?

                      Leonard 11 mil Hearns 5.1
                      Mayweather 223.5 mil Pac-Man 122 mil
                      Mayweather 65 mil Canelo 9.7 mil
                      Delahoya 42 mil Mayweather 20 mil

                      Remind me again why Crawford should be provided charity revenue?

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