Has Manny surpassed Tito on the ATG list?

[strugler]

You forget Sturm was his 6th division. What was Tito's?? lol

Tito didn't ruin Vargas. If that's the case then Cotto is ruined right now. I admit Vargas wasn't 100%, but he was still very very dangerous.

Vargas that fought quartey.............pretrinidad............has a good chance beating delahoya.............on second thought hes still too green..............too bad trinidad ruined him before he fights delahoya

[PoetryInMotion]

He didn't lose to the Baldomirs of the division. He only lost to Triniwrap, Oscar and Quartey in his prime. Those guys are really top quality fighters. Nothing wrong in losing to them only. (prime)

Is a guy who's best opponent before Trinidad was Pedro Sanchez(who? exactly.) really one of Trinidads best wins?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Vargas that fought quartey.............pretrinidad............has a good chance beating delahoya.............on second thought hes still too green..............too bad trinidad ruined him before he fights delahoya

Yea he ruined him, that's why he went on to win a championship after and then beat a tough Castillejo lol.

Margs ruined Cotto.

[street bully]

Vargas that fought quartey.............pretrinidad............has a good chance beating delahoya.............on second thought hes still too green..............too bad trinidad ruined him before he fights delahoya

Vargas fought Quartey after a multiple year lay off. It was also a very close fight.

[strugler]

Vargas fought Quartey after a multiple year lay off. It was also a very close fight.

yes..............but that was a young pre tito vargas...........it was close but nandos win was way clearer than Oscar.................imo....

[El Angel]

Beating Cotto would put him in front of Tito IMO.

[strugler]

Yea he ruined him, that's why he went on to win a championship after and then beat a tough Castillejo lol.

Margs ruined Cotto.

Well i dont know if miguel is ruined...........after getting a tough win against clottey.................he wont be as ruined as Margarito after shane beated his ass,.....thats for sure...............

[IwatchBoxing]

I would say yes.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Well i dont know if miguel is ruined...........after getting a tough win against clottey.................he wont be as ruined as Margarito after shane beated his ass,.....thats for sure...............

Cotto got an ass of a whooping too. A pre Margs Cotto would of steamrolled through Clottey.

Cotto is the next Taylor.

[strugler]

Cotto got an ass of a whooping too. A pre Margs Cotto would of steamrolled through Clottey.

Cotto is the next Taylor.

why betting against PAC then?................if you think hes ruined?...............