if Wilder retired tomorrow would you consider him an ATG HW

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  • Stuntman Mike
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    #21
    Originally posted by Citizen Koba
    I actually like Wilder despite all the daft excuses and despite the clear losses, and his performance and heart last night were that of a man who gave everything which is all I want to see from a fighter.

    Salute to that man.

    ATG? Not even remotely close. Can't even see what grounds you could use to attempt to make a case.
    And fury? For beating Wladimir who had aged over night the fight prior against bryant jennings

    And the wlad win was hardly in impressive fashion

    Then fought wilder absolutely huge punches but again we already seen him schooled twice by ortiz just has that one lucky big right hand ..it's hardly ali beating foreman wilder started boxing late and you can see it in his fights

    look at the first round of wilder fury 3 ..he stuck to his game plan for 1 round then reverted to his kid fighting in playground style

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    • RoadOfTheGypsy
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      #22
      Don't make me laugh. His best win was a washed Luis Ortiz?

      I am just glad we no longer have to hear from Deontay's racist fans, atleast I hope so, unfortunately they will keep talking about this third fight for infinity, won't they? I just hope we can move on to the undisputed fight after AJ vs Usyk settle their score in the rematch.

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        #23
        Hall of Famer Yes. All-Time Great no.

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          #24
          Originally posted by hugh grant

          Yes, it's really just me basically saying I want wilder to fight these people and don't want him to retire without giving me these fights. Wilder resume is pretty much chisoras level of wins, except with less losses. And wilder hasn't fought as many good fighters as chisora has
          i could see wilder becoming a journeyman and finishing with a 30-30 record or something like that.

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            #25
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            Hall of Famer Yes. All-Time Great no.
            hall of famer...based on what? certainly not boxing resume. i mean its called hall of fame so yeah hes famous for beign a hype job but that doesnt seem like the kind of thing you would reward with accolades, statues, etc...we cant be putting every hype job in the hall cause that will make the real good fighters look bad, eventually they prob wont even show up to the ceremony!

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            • moochi
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              #26
              No, his resume just ain't that good. His performances against them, great, but to be an ATG you need some top dogs on your resume.

              I still don't know who is the best name on his resume...


              Stiverne ? Who was he?
              Ortiz? Who was he again?

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                #27
                Originally posted by daggum

                hall of famer...based on what? certainly not boxing resume. i mean its called hall of fame so yeah hes famous for beign a hype job but that doesnt seem like the kind of thing you would reward with accolades, statues, etc...we cant be putting every hype job in the hall cause that will make the real good fighters look bad, eventually they prob wont even show up to the ceremony!
                if Sylvester Stallone can get in and Arturo Gatti can get in then I don't see a reason why Deontay Wilder can't get in either..Remember, that he is only the sixth man in boxing's heavyweight history with at least ten title defenses of his WBC title belt. That's an elite class in and of itself.

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                • AboutBillions
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                  Hell no, he got dominated 3 times in the only fights that mattered in his career.
                  If you can’t give wilder credit, you can’t give fury credit.

                  there’s no champion without a challenger, wilder is the best challenger.

                  fury an ATG in my eyes for doing that. So wilder is a ATG too I see only fury is getting up after 4th round.

                  wilder can fight on and off rack up more wins.
                  Last edited by AboutBillions; 10-10-2021, 07:50 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by daggum

                    i could see wilder becoming a journeyman and finishing with a 30-30 record or something like that.
                    Dude is rich only a journey man if u need the money lol

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                    • Boxingb32
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                      #30
                      Fury is the heavyweight goat

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