if Wilder retired tomorrow would you consider him an ATG HW

**Bum squad** · 10-10-2021, 05:13 AM

No, his resume sucks and he lost all three fights, two badly, against the only legit boxer he faced.

**Sun_Tzu** · 10-10-2021, 05:20 AM

Hell no, he got dominated 3 times in the only fights that mattered in his career.

**hugh grant** · 10-10-2021, 05:21 AM

Beat whyte, joyce, ruiz and Josh and he can be highin echelons of heavyweights

**Robbie Barrett** · 10-10-2021, 05:21 AM

With Ortiz and Stiverne as his best wins? GTFOH.

**BKM-** · 10-10-2021, 05:26 AM

Unfortunately no. If Fury had gotten up one second later, then he could have been. A win over Fury with a string of average title defenses and the clout of highest KO% in HW history and forever being alongside the Foreman's, Shaverss etc. in punching power topics could have done it for him. But he doesn't have the quality of wins.

**Ry92** · 10-10-2021, 05:33 AM

Ima give u my theory of wilder. Hes the definition of blessed hit the genetic lottery with height reach speed n power right beats most ppl cause way longer taller than u n well actually is fast with an amazing right. Great promoter put in vs people clearly could beat bet wrong after fury layoff then just was a cash out after than. Yet if your similar size n just as fast tactics dont work. Wilder not an atg ortiz only top 10 opp even that fight the old dude was schooling him til was caught dudes like pac age or older. Then fought a champ n lost 26 of 30 rounds to sure floored em 4x yet was floored 4-5x self n lost every other rd on points. Fury not even an atg has one win vs klitschko ran was on coke n roids n then fought a paper champ get out of here.

**Citizen Koba** · 10-10-2021, 05:34 AM

I actually like Wilder despite all the daft excuses and despite the clear losses, and his performance and heart last night were that of a man who gave everything which is all I want to see from a fighter.

Salute to that man.

ATG? Not even remotely close. Can't even see what grounds you could use to attempt to make a case.

**hugh grant** · 10-10-2021, 05:34 AM

If wilder can beat one of the 3, be it usyk or Josh would be good. Plus beat some of the next tier whyte, ruiz, parkers, joyce, hrgovic etc

**Pac=Duran** · 10-10-2021, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by Bum squad

No, his resume sucks and he lost all three fights, two badly, against the only legit boxer he faced.

Slightly unfair, Ortiz is a good win and he beat him twice. He’s old though.

wilder couldn’t get the win against a 50% Fury in the first fight and a 70% Fury in the 3rd fight. He’s a good heavyweight that could beat a few greats in history but he’s not an ATG

if Wilder retired tomorrow would you consider him an ATG HW