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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #11
    Wilder looks calm and composed to me. He had a little chat yesterday, exchanged some banter but did not react too strongly.

    People are seeing what they want to see, and creating narratives to back up 'What they think they are seeing'.

    Both fighters are game, and nobody is really destroyed as of yet.

    Tyson Fury is clearly on edge, and experiencing new pressures that he has never experienced before 'This is all part of being the defending champion'.

    This is the first time at elite level, that Tyson Fury is favourite 'People are expecting from him, he can no longer play the underdog'.

    Just look at Wilder here, that is not a defeated fighter. He is not trying to be anybodies mate like Anthony Joshua, or asking people to support him 'He is just coming to fight'.

    I would say Fury's hardcore fans are trying to convinced themselves of something that is not there.

    Note: Tyson Fury never cheated during the second fight, all of that is just complete nonsense. But this demeanor and attitude that Wilder is coming into this fight with 'Is not a push over, agreeable matey matey attitude'. Joshua needs to come with this same atitude during his rematch with Usyk, no more pictures or hugs.

    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-07-2021, 10:31 AM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by snowdog

      That was his ego. Or maybe even his team pushing him?

      Wilder is TERRIFIED of Fury. We saw signs of it months ago but this press conference has pretty much confirmed it.

      Points to note during the press conference are his body language during parts of it, plenty of self soothing going on and you can tell when he's rattled because he starts to stammer.

      Fury also broke Klitschko too, I don't think Joshua would have beaten him if Fury hadn't broken the man first.

      Wilder no longer has the belief that his right hand can do the job after Fury rose from the dead in round 12 of the first fight and after he shrugged off a couple of good right hands early on in the second fight.

      And he knows that he doesn't have a hope in hell of beating Fury by outboxing him.

      And he ALSO knows that Fury can HURT him after that battering he took in the second fight. He can moan about Breland throwing in the towel all he wants, the ref was on the verge of stopping the fight anyway.

      If Fury decides to box him like the first fight he'll win on points. If Fury decides to run him over 'like a freight train' like the second fight then Fury will win by KO or TKO.

      Sure, Wilder will have a puncher's chance, but I think that Wilder has lost faith in that right hand which is a HUGE psychological blow.
      Tyson Fury did not break Wladimir Kiltschko.

      They were scheduled for a rematch, which never happened 'Due to Fury's issues'.

      A broken fighter, does not want to immediately rematch somebody who has just beaten them.

      I understand people are seeing what they want to see, but come on mate? Why are you making things up?

      I sense that Fury's fans are getting real apprehensive 'Which is only natural, this is a extremely dangerous fight'.

      I am fairly neutral, but on the sly I want Tyson Fury to win. Mainly because I think a loss with affect him badly. But honestly I don't mind both fighters and teams.

      I am at the point where I cannot deny ether fighter, but I can and have made a strong case for Wilder winning.

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      • hugh grant
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        #13


        Wilder trying to act calm now as the I'm going knock you out demeanour didn't work, didn't rattle fury. The bad boy image didn't suit wilder

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          #14
          Originally posted by mromano
          Wilder is already defeated in my opinion. He can't even look Fury in the eyes when he's talking to him. The minute he gets cracked by Fury, he is going to remember the beating he took last time and it'll be the same result, but possibly even sooner.
          There’s a chance he will fold in the dressing room

          look how nervous he was before fight two, pacing up and down the dressing room. How’s he going to be before this?

          He will talk great game, he always does, but when he’s getting his hands wrapped and reality sets in, different story.

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          • MeanestNiceGuy
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            #15
            They all go "woke" and their careers go down the crapper....especially after they lose a fight. Wilder's no different.

            Fury fully exposed him in both fights and Wilder's only answer was to come into the rematch "top heavy" while STILL looking for one punch- to no avail.

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              #16
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              Tyson has changed wilders personality. Before wilder was like a pit bull "I'm going to ko you, you'll be twitching on floor" but now is all calm and collected like a Zen warrior?
              that can happen after a brain injury.

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              • STREET CLEANER
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                #17
                Originally posted by snowdog

                That was his ego. Or maybe even his team pushing him?

                Wilder is TERRIFIED of Fury. We saw signs of it months ago but this press conference has pretty much confirmed it.

                Points to note during the press conference are his body language during parts of it, plenty of self soothing going on and you can tell when he's rattled because he starts to stammer.

                Fury also broke Klitschko too, I don't think Joshua would have beaten him if Fury hadn't broken the man first.

                Wilder no longer has the belief that his right hand can do the job after Fury rose from the dead in round 12 of the first fight and after he shrugged off a couple of good right hands early on in the second fight.

                And he knows that he doesn't have a hope in hell of beating Fury by outboxing him.

                And he ALSO knows that Fury can HURT him after that battering he took in the second fight. He can moan about Breland throwing in the towel all he wants, the ref was on the verge of stopping the fight anyway.

                If Fury decides to box him like the first fight he'll win on points. If Fury decides to run him over 'like a freight train' like the second fight then Fury will win by KO or TKO.

                Sure, Wilder will have a puncher's chance, but I think that Wilder has lost faith in that right hand which is a HUGE psychological blow.
                Fury was down twice by that right hand and it is why they took the second fight. Wilder will always have the puncher's chance but I don't think he can deliver that punch to Fury because when he misses with it's by a lot. I pick Fury to win because of his skills but to say that Wilder is mentally broken when he pushed for this fight for so long and didn't let Fury have an interim fight is not correct. He might be more embarrassed than anything because of all the crap that he talked and then getting stopped made him look even more foolish.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

                  Fury was down twice by that right hand and it is why they took the second fight. Wilder will always have the puncher's chance but I don't think he can deliver that punch to Fury because when he misses with it's by a lot. I pick Fury to win because of his skills but to say that Wilder is mentally broken when he pushed for this fight for so long and didn't let Fury have an interim fight is not correct. He might be more embarrassed than anything because of all the crap that he talked and then getting stopped made him look even more foolish.
                  Fury could have had an interim fight ,if he wanted to . The ruling was Fury had a deadline to fight Wilder but no one legally could have stopped him from fighting itself . He was going to fight Kabayel but the money was unsatisfactory. Fury took tune up fights before facing Wilder under contract still ,this is no different barring Fury has an actual date to get the fight done and now he holds the belt .
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-07-2021, 11:27 AM.

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                    #19
                    I believe Wilder is to out there in his own world to be mentally defeated . Even if he loses this fight in any way we all know the excuses are already lined up and Wilder will still tell everyone he’s the best and he will have that certain number of crazy fans backing him on whatever he tells the viewers and crowd .

                    Wilder I believe has a certain mental instability about him and will live in his own world no matter what ,a person like this you can’t really mentally break , I actually believe a loss will make him worse then a win because he will then have to make the first narratives stick even more because he’s never going to succumb to telling anyone they won fairly .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-07-2021, 11:29 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                      Wilder looks calm and composed to me. He had a little chat yesterday, exchanged some banter but did not react too strongly.

                      People are seeing what they want to see, and creating narratives to back up 'What they think they are seeing'.

                      Both fighters are game, and nobody is really destroyed as of yet.

                      Tyson Fury is clearly on edge, and experiencing new pressures that he has never experienced before 'This is all part of being the defending champion'.

                      This is the first time at elite level, that Tyson Fury is favourite 'People are expecting from him, he can no longer play the underdog'.

                      Just look at Wilder here, that is not a defeated fighter. He is not trying to be anybodies mate like Anthony Joshua, or asking people to support him 'He is just coming to fight'.

                      I would say Fury's hardcore fans are trying to convinced themselves of something that is not there.

                      Note: Tyson Fury never cheated during the second fight, all of that is just complete nonsense. But this demeanor and attitude that Wilder is coming into this fight with 'Is not a push over, agreeable matey matey attitude'. Joshua needs to come with this same atitude during his rematch with Usyk, no more pictures or hugs.


                      Deontay Wilder "blasts Tyson Fury backstage" LOL

                      I blasted Foreman and all of them from my room once, at the same time. In front of them I would be asking for autographs.

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