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  • landotter
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    #11
    Originally posted by Lance98
    Wilder getting passes? Tons of people have been roasting him about the death threats, but AT least he is being honest, saying that he expects the same to be done to him in a fight. As for the cheating accusations, why is fury, the wbc and the commissions getting passes for downplaying the accusations when it is clear as day and very suspect. There was no investigations, so it would look like wilder is "spewing BS". They never got to the bottom of it and swept it under the rug. What do you expect? You do know that boxing is corrupt. This is not rocket science.
    Proof? Links?

    Wilder accused Fury of illegal hand wraps. But there is an authorized member from Wilders team allowed to view the hand wrapping of his opponent (and a rep from the sanctioning body), so no one buys that. Any dirty tricks in the ring was either on the ref (no video evidence) or Wilder would have been able to get away with it in kind. Then there was that ring attire Wilder was apparently forced to wear by some crooked, nefarious force that wore out his legs. I am sure, after all, the outfit was not his fault. Oh yeah, the poisoned water bottle from his own trainer. Lots of evidence to support that verbal garbage.

    I am missing half of the crap he said on and off from last fight I am sure. I do agree that Wilder got huge backlash from the "body on my record" comment. But there is no reason for any of his other accusations being taken seriously. He got beat and cried like a child who lost a playground game. Everyone else was to blame.

    Side note: If Wilder wins on October 9th, how much do you want to wager he NEVER brings up any of this corruption from the second fight again? Instead framing it as how he overcame the adversity of losing because he is a true man and established champion? He will not need the excuses anymore so I am betting not one will be talked about again unless a boxing beat writer corners him about it.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Lance98
      Wilder getting passes? Tons of people have been roasting him about the death threats, but AT least he is being honest, saying that he expects the same to be done to him in a fight. As for the cheating accusations, why is fury, the wbc and the commissions getting passes for downplaying the accusations when it is clear as day and very suspect. There was no investigations, so it would look like wilder is "spewing BS". They never got to the bottom of it and swept it under the rug. What do you expect? You do know that boxing is corrupt. This is not rocket science.
      Why do you think? Why do you think they are down playing it? Because Wilder never said anything about flapping gloves until after the second fight (flapping gloves which happened in Wilder vs Fury I), never said anything about a dent in in his head (which by some strange disruption in the time continuum appeared years before he ever fought Fury), never complained that there was something wrong with Fury's gloves (nor Wilder's team) Remember how it went down with Luis Resto? I mean, come on man, he apparently had loaded gloves, egg weights. Why didn't Wilder or his team call that out at some point in the fight? Nothing like that happened.

      Wilder didn't say anything about any of that. But you know who did? The Internet. Loonies on the Internet. All of whom are Wilder fans. They made up these stories because they couldn't handle their idol losing. Couldn't handle it. And when Wilder heard these stories, what was he going to do? Part of me believes that Wilder doesn't believe these stories. Part of me thinks he's just going along with it because he doesn't want to disappoint his base. It's like a politician in a way. Just make up whatever and cater to the base because he makes money off of his base, in a similar way that a politician does. His fans buy his fights. He can't lose them. So he just went along with the story.

      Then again, maybe he believes these tall tails of betrayal and malice. Maybe he has to believe these stories because if he didn't, then he wouldn't be able to fight again. It would be crushing to his ego. He'd be washed up as a fighter because his whole self image would be destroyed.

      No one's ego can stand on a lie forever. At some point, reality is going to hit Wilder. The moment we will know if reality has hit Wilder is if we see him lose his composure in the Ring with Fury. If we see Wilder start to look as he did in the second fight, you'll know that Fury crushed him not physically but mentally. And you'll know that he never truly believed any of that bull****.
      Last edited by Cypocryphy; 10-07-2021, 01:19 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by landotter

        Proof? Links?

        Wilder accused Fury of illegal hand wraps. But there is an authorized member from Wilders team allowed to view the hand wrapping of his opponent (and a rep from the sanctioning body), so no one buys that. Any dirty tricks in the ring was either on the ref (no video evidence) or Wilder would have been able to get away with it in kind. Then there was that ring attire Wilder was apparently forced to wear by some crooked, nefarious force that wore out his legs. I am sure, after all, the outfit was not his fault. Oh yeah, the poisoned water bottle from his own trainer. Lots of evidence to support that verbal garbage.

        I am missing half of the crap he said on and off from last fight I am sure. I do agree that Wilder got huge backlash from the "body on my record" comment. But there is no reason for any of his other accusations being taken seriously. He got beat and cried like a child who lost a playground game. Everyone else was to blame.

        Side note: If Wilder wins on October 9th, how much do you want to wager he NEVER brings up any of this corruption from the second fight again? Instead framing it as how he overcame the adversity of losing because he is a true man and established champion? He will not need the excuses anymore so I am betting not one will be talked about again unless a boxing beat writer corners him about it.
        Hahahaha...people have been caught in boxing cheating before despite being heavily monitored by commissions and teams, so don't even give me that BS about sanctioning bodies and wilder's team inspecting fury. Also, you can see proofs and links on fury's gloves. It's widely available if you look online. It's hard not to miss it. As for his own trainer breland...there is no evidence of that yet, but breland kind of told on himself in that UK interview which was also quite suspect. The only lame excuse from wilder was the costume excuse, but all of the other stuff is very suspect. It's hilarious that people want to downplay it and sweep it under the rug. Wilder hasn't even been talking about it that much now because he knows whatever he says is going to get downplayed by bias, agenda-driven people, so bringing up these accusations even when he wins is already a moot point. Try harder next time.

        Originally posted by Cypocryphy

        Why do you think? Why do you think they are down playing it? Because Wilder never said anything about flapping gloves (which happened in Wilder vs Fury I), never said anything about a dent in in his head (which by some strange disruption in the time continuum appeared years before he ever fought Fury), never complained that there was something wrong with his gloves nor or Wilder's team (like what happened with Luis Resto). I mean, come on man, he apparently had loaded gloves, egg weights. Nothing like that happened.

        Wilder didn't say anything about any of that. But you know who did? The Internet. Loonies on the Internet. All of whom are Wilder fans. They made up these stories because they couldn't handle their idol losing. Couldn't handle it. And when Wilder heard these stories, what was he going to do? Part of me believes that Wilder doesn't believe these stories. Part of me thinks he's just going along with it because he doesn't want to disappoint his base. It's like a politician in a way. Just make up whatever and cater to the base because he makes money off of his base, in a similar way that a politician does. His fans buy his fights. He can't lose them. So he just went along with the story.

        Then again, maybe he believes these tall tails of betrayal and malice. Maybe he has to believe these stories because if he didn't, then he wouldn't be able to fight again. It would be crushing to his ego. He'd be washed up as a fighter because his whole self image would be destroyed.

        No one's ego can stand on a lie forever. At some point, reality is going to hit Wilder. The moment we will know if reality has hit Wilder is if we see him lose his composure in the Ring with Fury. If we see Wilder start to look as he did in the second fight, you'll know that Fury crushed him not physically but mentally. And you'll know that he never truly believed any of that bull****.
        Nice paragraphs. Puh-lease...you think the internet brought this up first? It was wilder's brother. Do your own research. I stopped reading right there. Keep typing more paragraphs.
        Last edited by Lance98; 10-07-2021, 01:23 AM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by YoungManRumble

          People don't regularly die in pro wrestling though. Sure there have been accidents but all I can even think of is the Owen Hart tragedy when he plummeted to his death. And that was due to the theatrics and not the actual combat, which despite being choreographed is still obviously dangerous and hard on your body.
          Oh yeah. That was bad. Remember when Jake the Snake took out a cobra and had it bite Macho Man in the ring? That could have gone badly. Anyway, you're right. Combat sports like boxing and MMA are not the same. That is true. I guess that was a bad analogy.

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            #15
            Why is Tyson Fury getting the benefit of the doubt, that it's improbable that he cheated in the first 2 Wilder bouts❓

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              #16
              Originally posted by Lance98

              Hahahaha...people have been caught in boxing cheating before despite being heavily monitored by commissions and teams, so don't even give me that BS about sanctioning bodies and wilder's team inspecting fury. Also, you can see proofs and links on fury's gloves. It's widely available if you look online. It's hard not to miss it. As for his own trainer breland...there is no evidence of that yet, but breland kind of told on himself in that UK interview which was also quite suspect. The only lame excuse from wilder was the costume excuse, but all of the other stuff is very suspect. It's hilarious that people want to downplay it and sweep it under the rug. Wilder hasn't even been talking about it that much now because he knows whatever he says is going to get downplayed by bias, agenda-driven people, so bringing up these accusations even when he wins is already a moot point. Try harder next time.



              Nice paragraphs. Puh-lease...you think the internet brought this up first? It was wilder's brother. Do your own research. I stopped reading right there. Keep typing more paragraphs.


              Oh, Wilder's brother ... I'm still waiting for Wilder's autopsy report Ahahahahahah So that's who you want to believe huh? And yeah, that came out after the Internet was buzzing with that bull**** that you love slurping. GTFOH

              And you should read my paragraphs. You might learn something.

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                #17
                Wilder fans are so thick, they honestly believe that a couple of photoshopped stills is "concrete evidence" that Fury cheated.

                I can't wait for Fury to finally get rid of these morons once and for all.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Lance98

                  Hahahaha...people have been caught in boxing cheating before despite being heavily monitored by commissions and teams, so don't even give me that BS about sanctioning bodies and wilder's team inspecting fury. Also, you can see proofs and links on fury's gloves. It's widely available if you look online. It's hard not to miss it. As for his own trainer breland...there is no evidence of that yet, but breland kind of told on himself in that UK interview which was also quite suspect. The only lame excuse from wilder was the costume excuse, but all of the other stuff is very suspect. It's hilarious that people want to downplay it and sweep it under the rug. Wilder hasn't even been talking about it that much now because he knows whatever he says is going to get downplayed by bias, agenda-driven people, so bringing up these accusations even when he wins is already a moot point. Try harder next time.



                  Nice paragraphs. Puh-lease...you think the internet brought this up first? It was wilder's brother. Do your own research. I stopped reading right there. Keep typing more paragraphs.
                  Ah, yes. The "look it up yourself" thing. I have. My computer works. I have the that new inter-web thing on it and I not only Googled it, I Bing-ed it as well. There are zero credited sources, and no investigations into it from any sports outlet or independent agency that I could find. And sure, people have gotten away with cheating. But in a fight for the World HW championship with that many eyes on them in the dressing room? Sorry, the trying to belittle me so you can say you are right is just not enough. Wilder got spanked, showed his true colors as a man-child. There are only whispers in the wind to back up Wilder's claims. You can repeat them all you want. Go team. Do not understand why, none of us on this site have any skin in this game, but you do you. But the guilt by association is not enough. Because boxing has had cheats does not mean the mere accusation from a boxer who lost is enough. There may be a ton of car accidents in a major city because some drivers ignore the traffic signals, that does not mean everyone else with an automobile in the city are driving through red lights because comment sections say so.

                  Without proof, it is just Wilder making excuses. And incidentally, yes he WILL continue to push for the truth to come out if he was wronged even if he wins. It is what people who tell the truth do. People making excuses and false accusations let things go as soon as they get what they want. If he wins and lost the second fight due to mean people doing mean things to him, he should work twice as hard to expose it and get the loss of his record (they would change it to a no contest if his claims were found to be true)..

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy


                    Oh, Wilder's brother ... I'm still waiting for Wilder's autopsy report Ahahahahahah So that's who you want to believe huh? And yeah, that came out after the Internet was buzzing with that bull**** that you love slurping. GTFOH

                    And you should read my paragraphs. You might learn something.
                    So I see that you are now believing that it was indeed from the brother first after saying it was the internet, bringing up autopsy report. Why would they need to show the autopsy report then? You got exposed and you are changing your tune, haha... Speaking of reports and proofs? Where was fury's covid positive test proof? Where was the wild boar meat proof when he failed the drug test years ago?

                    Originally posted by landotter

                    Ah, yes. The "look it up yourself" thing. I have. My computer works. I have the that new inter-web thing on it and I not only Googled it, I Bing-ed it as well. There are zero credited sources, and no investigations into it from any sports outlet or independent agency that I could find. And sure, people have gotten away with cheating. But in a fight for the World HW championship with that many eyes on them in the dressing room? Sorry, the trying to belittle me so you can say you are right is just not enough. Wilder got spanked, showed his true colors as a man-child. There are only whispers in the wind to back up Wilder's claims. You can repeat them all you want. Go team. Do not understand why, none of us on this site have any skin in this game, but you do you. But the guilt by association is not enough. Because boxing has had cheats does not mean the mere accusation from a boxer who lost is enough. There may be a ton of car accidents in a major city because some drivers ignore the traffic signals, that does not mean everyone else with an automobile in the city are driving through red lights because comment sections say so.

                    Without proof, it is just Wilder making excuses. And incidentally, yes he WILL continue to push for the truth to come out if he was wronged even if he wins. It is what people who tell the truth do. People making excuses and false accusations let things go as soon as they get what they want. If he wins and lost the second fight due to mean people doing mean things to him, he should work twice as hard to expose it and get the loss of his record (they would change it to a no contest if his claims were found to be true)..
                    You do know it was downplayed and swept under the rug, hence, no investigations. So simple, yet apologists/fanboys have to type huge paragraphs to project their insecurities and over-explain....lol...
                    Last edited by Lance98; 10-07-2021, 02:03 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Lance98

                      So I see that you are now believing that it was indeed from the brother first after saying it was the internet, bringing up autopsy report. Why would they need to show the autopsy report then? You got exposed and you are changing your tune, haha... Speaking of reports and proofs? Where was fury's covid positive test proof? Where was the wild boar meat proof when he failed the drug test years ago?



                      You do know it was downplayed and swept under the rug, hence, no investigations. So simple, yet apologists/fanboys have to type huge paragraphs to project their insecurities and over-explain....lol...
                      This dumbazz doesn't know what an autopsy is, typical Wilder tard!

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