Wilder fans... how do you justify continuing being a fan

[deathofaclown]

Wilder never proved to be one of the best. Did he? So in turn Fury hasn't since his return.

Who has? AJ? Fighting old men, a Fury leftover and losing to C level Ruiz, then Usyk.


the truth is, The division hasn’t been that deep for any of them to truly prove some kind of greatness. But at least wilder and fury were trying by having two of the consensus top three fighting each other when they did. At least it’s the best fighting the best.

AJ didn’t do that. He fought third rate fighters and old guys.

[Robbie Barrett]

Who has? AJ? Fighting old men, a Fury leftover and losing to C level Ruiz, then Usyk.


the truth is, The division hasn’t been that deep for any of them to truly prove some kind of greatness. But at least wilder and fury were trying by having two of the consensus top three fighting each other when they did. At least it’s the best fighting the best.

AJ didn’t do that. He fought third rate fighters and old guys.

There's a few fighters with a better resume than Wilder, beaten better fighters than Wilder has. Wilder is ****. Fury wasn't top 3 when he fought Wilder the first time. Again he's ranked where he is by beating the least skilled title holder ever, someone that never proved to be top of the division.

[Zelda]

Wilder brings a lot of value to HW boxing.

He is outspoken, his fights are always thrilling to watch, gives us the KO we're all waiting for, and is exciting to watch because you never know when that right-hand bomb is going to land.

Sure, he's not the most articulate guy nor the best skilled, but he does have the best KO ratio.

[Stuntman Mike]

What you said was typical sheep-like bollocks. Nash out.

How was it tell me one thing that isn't factual in what I said ..
did wilder lace them up young?
Has wilder outboxed anyone?
Was wilder schooled in every department against a 40 year old Cuban
did wladimir look good against jennings the fight prior to fury ?
Has fury defended his belt once?
is the division poor compared to past divisions?

You don't agree if there is mediocre competition to acquire greatness you need to reign and defend against mandos for a long time like the klitscko brothers?

What don't you agree with Nash or anyone else

[Stuntman Mike]

You were supposed to make a thread where you scored Bhop v Calzaghe rd by rd remember?

Oh yeah I forgot all about that I will this weekend

[Stuntman Mike]

Who has? AJ? Fighting old men, a Fury leftover and losing to C level Ruiz, then Usyk.


the truth is, The division hasn’t been that deep for any of them to truly prove some kind of greatness. But at least wilder and fury were trying by having two of the consensus top three fighting each other when they did. At least it’s the best fighting the best.

AJ didn’t do that. He fought third rate fighters and old guys.

I believe wilder believed in himself prior to the fury fight and even still now ..but I think fury came to fight wilder on the basis the guy has been outboxed by John molina and oldtiz... fury saw the cherry that was ripe to be picked

[deathofaclown]

There's a few fighters with a better resume than Wilder, beaten better fighters than Wilder has. Wilder is ****. Fury wasn't top 3 when he fought Wilder the first time. Again he's ranked where he is by beating the least skilled title holder ever, someone that never proved to be top of the division.

Tell me who has proved it?

AJ hasn’t, his best win was a Fury leftover that was no longer champ.

Ok let’s say Wilder was garbage and take him out of the equation...

Then we both agree that Fury taking Wlad’s belts makes him the only current heavyweight that beat a truly dominant champ to become the number 1 with no questions asked? Wilder never did that, neither did AJ.

[Robbie Barrett]

Tell me who has proved it?

AJ hasn’t, his best win was a Fury leftover that was no longer champ.

Ok let’s say Wilder was garbage and take him out of the equation...

Then we both agree that Fury taking Wlad’s belts makes him the only current heavyweight that beat a truly dominant champ to become the number 1 with no questions asked? Wilder never did that, neither did AJ.

The Klitschko that fought Joshua had more dog in him than the one that just followed Fury around the ring. Usyk, Joshua, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz all have better resumes than Wilder. About time they started fighting these guys don't you think?

[deathofaclown]

The Klitschko that fought Joshua had more dog in him than the one that just followed Fury around the ring. Usyk, Joshua, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz all have better resumes than Wilder. About time they started fighting these guys don't you think?

Now you’re moving the goalposts


just admit Fury has been the only fighter out of those in question to beat a true number 1 dominant champ to become champ and number 1. It won’t kill you to admit it. If you want to talk about fighters proving themselves, then he’s the one that proved it the most by dethroning Wlad.

Wlad wasn’t better, nobody gets better at 41. He had success because AJ was the same kind of fighter he made a career looking good against, a big stiff upright fighter. That’s the top and bottom of it. The same flaws losing AJ fights now.

[Nash out]

How was it tell me one thing that isn't factual in what I said ..
did wilder lace them up young?
Has wilder outboxed anyone?
Was wilder schooled in every department against a 40 year old Cuban
did wladimir look good against jennings the fight prior to fury ?
Has fury defended his belt once?
is the division poor compared to past divisions?

You don't agree if there is mediocre competition to acquire greatness you need to reign and defend against mandos for a long time like the klitscko brothers?

What don't you agree with Nash or anyone else

When Wilder laced them up is irrelevant. He could knock a house down and would have KO's Mike Tyson 10/10 times.

Yes, has outboxed everyone except Fury, the greatest of all time, and Ortiz, a Cuban legend.

Yes, Wilder was behind on points vs the Cuban legend.

Yes, Wlad beat Jennings 11-1 in rounds.

Belt defences mean nothing, it's all about great wins. Wilder, Wilder, Wlad, Cunningham, Chisora 1.0, Chisora 4.0, Super Wallin, and more.

The division is the best it has ever been. So glad to be so far past the dark days of the 90s era. Nash out.