Comments Thread For: Willie Pep Biopic Set To Begin Production

[ShoulderRoll]

I don't understand why people don't know this. They think fighting once or twice a year against an overmatched opponent makes someone great, but over a hundred fights, with multiple fights against future hall of famers over the course of a year, is "overrated". When a person does not know or understand boxing history and tries to school someone on the science of the sport, it's hilarious. I stop by a boxing gym and talk to the owner of it quite a bit. He trains fighters the old fashion way. None of that Mayweather mitt work pecking bs and he makes sure his fighters doesn't walk around at 40-50 lbs over their weight class in between fights. We talk about the history of the sport a bit and he told me that after these old guys today from the 50s and 60s finally die off, that's it. Who's gonna carry on and spread the tradition of sweet science from the past? These superstars today are fighting twice a year. ****, 10 years from now, they may fight once every 2 years regularly.

The Mayweather mittwork is actually brilliant AND old fashioned. When Floyd Sr was a young man he learned what he knows by being around boxing training camps in Kalamazoo, Michigan ran by Darryl Williams. A trainer who was around 70 years old at the time.

Aside from that I agree with the rest of your post. Fighting 2 times a year isn't enough to stay sharp, much less to achieve mastery.

[buddyr]

The Mayweather mittwork is actually brilliant AND old fashioned. When Floyd Sr was a young man he learned what he knows by being around boxing training camps in Kalamazoo, Michigan ran by Darryl Williams. A trainer who was around 70 years old at the time.

Aside from that I agree with the rest of your post. Fighting 2 times a year isn't enough to stay sharp, much less to achieve mastery.

that mitt routine isn't new, but anyone can learn it. It's like a rubix cube. Once you get the algorithms down, it can be repetitive. No one is gonna me in the ring throwing those pitty pat jabs at you. They're gonna be trying to remove your soul from your frame. You train as you fight. Fighting is supposed to be the easy part and training is the hard part.

[ShoulderRoll]

that mitt routine isn't new, but anyone can learn it. It's like a rubix cube. Once you get the algorithms down, it can be repetitive. No one is gonna me in the ring throwing those pitty pat jabs at you. They're gonna be trying to remove your soul from your frame. You train as you fight. Fighting is supposed to be the easy part and training is the hard part.

Doing roadwork can be repetitive. Practicing your footwork can be repetitive. But these are things that have to be done, there's a purpose for them.

Same with the Mayweather mittwork. Floyd has used exact moves drilled on the pads in his fights. The pull counter and body shot catch-and-shoots for example.

This comes from an old school tradition within the black boxing community. So really it supports your main point that the old school was the best school.

[War Room]

I'm training James for his part as Willie. It's going to be GREAT for the city of Hartford

Excellent. Good to see you posting.

[komandante]

Did he ever fought Filipino Pancho Villa?/

[hugh grant]

The fact that they fought so often tells you why they were masters of their craft back then.

You get good at something when you do it over and over again.

But why are olden day fighters accused of looking trash? I'm sure training hard is how you get good rather than fighting people who often weren't that good

[BodyBagz]

The only boxing movie I'm interested in is Gatti's (I'm sure legal reasons will prevent it.)