The Top 3 Heavyweights And Then The Rest .

[billeau2]

What did Wilder do to get from tier 3/4 to your tier 2?

It all depends on how you look at losses, etc. I do like the list because Wilder should stand alone IMO. I would in fact rank AJ ahead of him. But Wilder, in a sense, is the wild card. He lost to Fury, he Koed all his opponents (I think all of them, or damn near).

I would personally put Fury, Usyk and AJ together. Usyk, beating AJ and Chisora make him solid enough. AJ fought the most of the rest, and Fury has klitsko and wilder...

[billeau2]

The only 3 elite class.

Forget the nonsense about promoters... Elite relatively speaking? I can see putting three guys ahead, I can see including AJ, but nobody has really put themselves head and shoulders above anyone else imo.

[Dolor]

My list:
1. Fury
2. Usyk
3. Wilder
4. Joshua

Where is David Price?

[NYG]

I know if someone has been a unified champion with multiple title defenses they are a top guy though ? You literally asked me what makes AJ a top fighter .

You’re as bad as that other poster telling posters you stop learning once you are a champion , funny I was just telling another poster how the forum doesn’t have many intelligent people on it for the most part and you are literally proving that .

AJ is nowhere near a top fighter you ****ing moron. Just because you say it a bunch of times doesn't make it true. AJ went life and death with a ****ing Klitschko fossil and lost to a short fat Ruiz who he was supposed to walk through. Then loses to Usyk, tries to outbox him and gets embarassed while doing it. How is he a top fighter when he doesn't even know what kind of fighter he wants to be? Every time he loses, he's smiling and hugging everybody. Guy can't take the pressure and he's a manufactured fighter. If he beats Usyk and then loses the next fight, will he get another rematch? Come on, take his **** out of your mouth for a second and use your brain for once

[RoadOfTheGypsy]

I believe A.J will defeat anyone who’s willing to step in the ring with him

If he gets rid of Rob McCrappen and starts fighting with the intent of stopping people, yeah.
If he continues with Rob McCrappen and fights afraid and runs around outboxing people smaller than him, hell no.

[REDEEMER]

AJ is nowhere near a top fighter you ****ing moron. Just because you say it a bunch of times doesn't make it true. AJ went life and death with a ****ing Klitschko fossil and lost to a short fat Ruiz who he was supposed to walk through. Then loses to Usyk, tries to outbox him and gets embarassed while doing it. How is he a top fighter when he doesn't even know what kind of fighter he wants to be? Every time he loses, he's smiling and hugging everybody. Guy can't take the pressure and he's a manufactured fighter. If he beats Usyk and then loses the next fight, will he get another rematch? Come on, take his **** out of your mouth for a second and use your brain for once

Rematches are common practice with champions in the contracts ,definitely if they hold multiple belts so again showing your lack of intelligence and showing the forum you don’t know much about boxing .

The rest of what you posted is very simple,if you don’t like boxing or A.J fights don’t watch him ,no need to act like a little girl on here crying about him ,the only reason I don’t block you on this thread is because I use posters like you for entertainment .

[REDEEMER]

If he gets rid of Rob McCrappen and starts fighting with the intent of stopping people, yeah.
If he continues with Rob McCrappen and fights afraid and runs around outboxing people smaller than him, hell no.

I’d like to see him with a full time trainer ,the truth is McCracken is only there with him part time , he really should get Tony Sims back the guy who he had early on .

[RoadOfTheGypsy]

I’d like to see him with a full time trainer ,the truth is McCracken is only there with him part time , he really should get Tony Sims back the guy who he had early on .

Yeah that would do the trick. I get the feeling you are an AJ fan, I get along with fans of everyone, so let me ask you this:

Did you see the fight in AJ in the Usyk fight? Cause I saw no dog in him in that fight. He was just happy to coast along, deer in the headlights.

For comparison: The fight with Klitschko, he got dropped, but he picked himself up and came back to finish strong. In that fight he had the will to win, he had the dog in him, same thing with the Dillian Whyte fight, it was all going well until Ruiz 1.

Thats the night and day difference of AJ.

You are a nice guy to talk with I must say. I would also like to see AJ pair up with Shane McGuigan, he did wonders for Okolie. I am not british but no one can deny the huge impact AJ has had on british boxing, across weight divisions.

[RoadOfTheGypsy]

Rematches are common practice with champions in the contracts:

Yes, if you are a "super champion" you should be given a rematch, like AJ was.

Shame we didn't get to see Klitschko vs Fury II, as I believe Wladimir would have come in with mean intentions the second time around.
All the great champions deserve a rematch, which is why I believe it was a hoe move from Teofimo not to rematch Loma, who clearly had his number once he started being active. Lopez would probably have the same fate as Nakatani.

[REDEEMER]

Yeah that would do the trick. I get the feeling you are an AJ fan, I get along with fans of everyone, so let me ask you this:

Did you see the fight in AJ in the Usyk fight? Cause I saw no dog in him in that fight. He was just happy to coast along, deer in the headlights.

For comparison: The fight with Klitschko, he got dropped, but he picked himself up and came back to finish strong. In that fight he had the will to win, he had the dog in him, same thing with the Dillian Whyte fight, it was all going well until Ruiz 1.

Thats the night and day difference of AJ.

You are a nice guy to talk with I must say. I would also like to see AJ pair up with Shane McGuigan, he did wonders for Okolie. I am not british but no one can deny the huge impact AJ has had on british boxing, across weight divisions.

A.J has a lot more to lose then Whyte he had the undisputed fight on his mind , Whyte was winning the first fight with Povetkin. I think that’s the difference. A.J could have stopped Ruiz imop but he showed great boxing abilities and played it safe . He played it way to safe with Usyk ,I saw no urgency but for once I agreed with John Fury where the corner was largely to blame .

If A.J really wanted to put a huge advantage for himself he could get with Ali Bashir the protege of Steward who made Usyk into the best version we’ve seen , he knows him and knows what the plan would be ,he discussed it before but didn’t divulge much saying the winner would be whoever’s corner he was in .


I think he will win the rematch either way , i would hope he doesn’t have to keep avenging losses but the more you fight top guys the harder it is to not lose ,there’s not many but there’s a few guys who can potentially hand him another loss , after the last fight I would probably get a new trainer ,there’s losing fights because of honest mistakes but the advice he got was pretty bad ,boxing’s a team sport despite what most think . It’s basically you and the trainer ,you really need both to mesh otherwise it falls apart . Maybe they don’t want to risk change at this point ?