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    #51
    Originally posted by NYG
    How is AJ top 3? Lol guy lost to Ruiz and a cruiserweight.
    If you are new to boxing which you sound like ...you know rematches end different most times . It’s not picking on you but you really need to do your research and looking at the guys who won rematches . Not looking at just boxrec or whatever you guys do you would see there’s mostly different outcomes if fighters fight multiple times .

    Anyine saying Usyk is just a Cruiserweight fighter and ignore boxing altogether with the fighters credentials you sound ignorant. It’s like you forgot Usyk is a real fighter and looked up what class he was in before professional the heavyweight class, but you chose to do that ,which you sound ignorant .
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-01-2021, 05:52 PM.

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      #52
      Originally posted by REDEEMER

      If you are new to boxing which you sound like ...you know rematches end different most times . It’s not picking on you but you really need to do your research and looking at the guys who won rematches . Not looking at just boxrec or whatever you guys do you would see there’s mostly different outcomes if fighters fight multiple times .

      Anyine saying Usyk is just a Cruiserweight fighter and ignore boxing altogether with the fighters credentials you sound ignorant. It’s like you forgot Usyk is a real fighter and looked up what class he was in before professional the heavyweight class, but you chose to do that ,which you sound ignorant .
      Ok ****** lol. You know absolutely nothing about boxing and it shows from your post history. Keep your mouth shut unless i tell you to speak. AJ can't be top 3 when he lost 2 fights that he should have won. He has no idea how to plan for his opponents, what makes him so good? He doesn't adjust, he has no stamina, he gets hit too much. What makes him a top HW ?
      Last edited by NYG; 10-02-2021, 08:54 PM.

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        #53
        Originally posted by NYG

        Ok ****** lol. You know absolutely nothing about boxing and it shows from your post history. Keep your mouth shut unless i tell you to speak. AJ can't be top 3 when he lost 2 fights that he should have won. He has no idea how to plan for his opponents, what makes him so good? He doesn't adjust, he has no stamina, he gets hit too much. What makes him a top HW ?
        Again showing you’re new to boxing , Lewis lost 2 fights he should have won and those odds were greater because they were mismatches really . In fact he didn’t even take immediate rematches either in one of the losses , not many fighters do they are a limited number of guys coming back to win them . In fact Lewis only defended the belt 3 times the first stretch ,I wonder what you would say now had he been in his prime ?

        If you have to ask what makes a great resume champion a top guy , I’m not sure you are watching the right sport ?

        So again do your research and I won’t have to keep correcting you .
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          #54
          Originally posted by RoadOfTheGypsy

          I still got your nostradamus prediction bookmarked and will come back and haunt you for it

          But lets say you are right, then that would mean Wilder is #1 in the HW division.
          Would it though ? Seems like since A.J lost he has been permanently out as number 2 ? Why should Wilder get 1 because when A.J defeated Ruiz he was still number 2 ? I really doubt regardless what happens in the Fury fight that Wilder matches well against A.J . Yes I know he will be handed the spot but smarter fans know better ,I’d say Fury almost beats Wilder all the time but maybe Wilder gets it done that night ,I still say Fury vs A.J will really tell us who’s the best .

          Of course assuming A.J avenges his recent loss . Usyk is better then Wilder .
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            #55
            Originally posted by LarryX....

            Fury=6'9 lineal champ

            Ruiz=6 food fat boy who looks like he just left the damn buffett


            Joshua had the worse loss man
            Ruiz would be Wilders best win ,you haven’t a clue ,telling me a guy with a busted ear drum getting mugged with no legs under him was a lesser defeat then a guy having a discussion to continue fighting was ?
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              #56
              Currently

              Fury
              Usyk
              Wilder
              Whyte
              Joshua

              Wont change if Fury wins but if Wilder wins, Usyk possibly swaps places with Fury, but Fury stays ahead of Wilder given he would be 2-1 on him.

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                #57
                Originally posted by cushtytaz
                Currently

                Fury
                Usyk
                Wilder
                Whyte
                Joshua

                Wont change if Fury wins but if Wilder wins, Usyk possibly swaps places with Fury, but Fury stays ahead of Wilder given he would be 2-1 on him.
                You know A.J knocked Whyte out already and knocked out Whytes best win , Povetkin ?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER

                  You know A.J knocked Whyte out already and knocked out Whytes best win , Povetkin ?
                  Just because you get beat once by someone, it doesn't mean that person is unanimously better overall. Iron Mike and Lennox will tell you that. When you start with the rematches and the trilogies that's when you find out. Think Whyte probably beats him now, but yes strictly on records AJ would be in 4th. I'm afraid I'm with Roy Jones jr on this one though.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by cushtytaz

                    Just because you get beat once by someone, it doesn't mean that person is unanimously better overall. Iron Mike and Lennox will tell you that. When you start with the rematches and the trilogies that's when you find out. Think Whyte probably beats him now, but yes strictly on records AJ would be in 4th. I'm afraid I'm with Roy Jones jr on this one though.
                    Apologies, no idea why i thought Roy Jones Jr said that. He didn't. He did put Whyte in a no particular order top 5 recently though
                    Last edited by cushtytaz; 10-03-2021, 11:32 AM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by cushtytaz

                      Just because you get beat once by someone, it doesn't mean that person is unanimously better overall. Iron Mike and Lennox will tell you that. When you start with the rematches and the trilogies that's when you find out. Think Whyte probably beats him now, but yes strictly on records AJ would be in 4th. I'm afraid I'm with Roy Jones jr on this one though.
                      No one has Whyte over A.J for a reason . In fact I’m betting Wallin wins that fight because I know who Ali Bashir is backing and he’s been in the training camps with both guys .

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