Comments Thread For: Fury's Father Defends Joshua: Give AJ a Break, It Was His Corner's Fault

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  • macmike100
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    #51
    I think the money and cushy life got to him and his team. Not listening to good boxing advice. Too complacent. Less hungry. Distractions. Thought no one that small could do that to him. Lost too much weight. All those visible muscles he honed didn't serve him. But Fury is right. AJ's team needs an adjustment. A big adjustment. If he's gonna fight in the rematch. He needs a better team. Better plans. Not yes men.

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    • hitmanjosh
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      #52
      I must say he’s not totally off base here, the corner was relaxed a bit to relaxed seeing what’s at stake. I like Robert and he was a good fighter himself who came up short, but held a win over my stable mate who was a slick boxer from Detroit but as a trainer you have to be able to push the buttons on your fighter and that separate good trainers from exceptional. He’s just good nothing special in fact many of us can do the same with Joshua due to his size and pedigree.

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      • nino brown21
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        #53
        Originally posted by Bornboxingfan

        I remember the Ref gave the fight to Hatton. Which I was shocked because I thought he lost and
        their were no judges scorecards. The ref decided the outcome, which in USA I have never seen.
        Ya that's what I thought I heard too. The judge was the ref lol. They should do that in every fight. Cut out the excessive fat in this sport.

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        • Fighter78
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          #54
          Listen to this old wrinkled up wanker talk....LOL....scared his pu$$y hyped up kid is gonna miss out on a large sum of money....LOL AH YES....the boxing Gods indeed do exist.

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          • P to the J
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            #55
            Originally posted by springfiels

            I agree with some of what you've said there.

            But Usyk is a genius, a true P4P talent... It can't be that Usyk is a genius and Joshua is complete dog**** - or it would've been much much worse.

            After 8 rounds it was level - 1 judge had Usyk by a round, 1 had Joshua by a round and 1 had a draw. Joshua also won 5 and 6 convincingly and clearly hurt Usyk to the body and head.

            You are right that from there Joshua faded, badly. But Usyk's style drains everyone, it makes me tired just watching his non-stop movement, feints and footwork!

            On that showing, I think it is possible for Joshua to win 6/7 rounds against Usyk. Not by outboxing him though. He will need to be more aggressive and willing to trade, that is the big IF for me, will he be willing to?

            He definitely hasn't been the same fighter since Ruiz 1, and had already gone more safety first before that.

            People should be happy. This rematch has literally everything - will be a outrageous spectacle, great card likely, two likeable and exciting fighters and an incredible narrative. Joshua's career is on the line again, and this time he can't simply box a 19 stone slob from the outside for 12 rounds to victory - now we'll really see what he's all about...

            A lot of observers believe AJ hasn’t been the same since Ruiz took him apart. I think it stretches back even further than that to Klitshcko. Joshua is on record saying that, in the aftermath, Rob McCracken severely castigated his performance.

            Ever since then, you can track the change in his performances: from cavalier pre-Wlad to attempts to be a little bit more conservative. See how he boxed against Takam and Parker? Since the Wlad fight, he’s knocked out only Pulev and Povetkin in 7 fights. I think this is McCracken’s attempt to turn him into a ‘tall fighter’.

            But to me, it looks like he’s lost his initial instincts, which have been compounded by being hurt several times and worse still, he looks like he’s caught between several styles.

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            • factsarenice
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              #56
              Originally posted by hitmanjosh
              I must say he’s not totally off base here, the corner was relaxed a bit to relaxed seeing what’s at stake. I like Robert and he was a good fighter himself who came up short, but held a win over my stable mate who was a slick boxer from Detroit but as a trainer you have to be able to push the buttons on your fighter and that separate good trainers from exceptional. He’s just good nothing special in fact many of us can do the same with Joshua due to his size and pedigree.
              I agree with you 100%, Joshua needs a new perspective much the way Fury needed new blood.
              Last edited by factsarenice; 09-29-2021, 03:44 PM.

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