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  • #91
    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post


    They said that about Holyfield who was probably just as much if not more past it than Mike! Funnily enough he was also 34.

    The division is a55 but so was it when Mike was at his peak.
    I give Mike a punchers chance in the first four rounds after that he'll fade as he always did and become increasingly more frustrated.

    Everyone loves Mike he likely got 90% of this board into boxing but he was a four round bully, a frontrunner who lost all his biggest fights.
    Tyson wasn’t in his 20s and at his peak in 96. Can you not read or comprehend posts, which is it?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
      He is right. A prime Mike Tyson under the tutelage of one Cus D'Amato was unbeatable. It wasn't until he hooked up with Don King that he lost his drive and will to succeed.
      This ............

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      • #93
        Originally posted by buddyr View Post

        Tyson wasn’t in his 20s and at his peak in 96. Can you not read or comprehend posts, which is it?

        He was 30 and apparently done (only after he got his **** pushed in) but they still said a 34yr old career CW (that was on the downslide) was going to get killed. They didn't understand then or understand styles make fights. They don't even understand styles make fights today.
        Its just changing the narrative to suit an agenda, rewriting history with baseless opinions.
        It wouldn't matter if he was in his peak Holyfield would have still ****ed him up. He was more shot than Tyson and simply has the style to beat him. He was a better boxer at every range, bigger, stronger, faster, tougher, more skilled those are facts. Tyson never even looked the puncher when they fought.

        Was he not at his peak when he got the living hell beat out of him by a bum in Buster Douglas? 23yrs old was he not at his peak? Convenient.

        Everytime he fought a decent, close to prime HW he didn't just lose he got absolute battered from pillar to post.

        The people that claim this stuff of him being unbeatable if Cus was still around, Its just a load of fanboy, fantasy dreamland boll0cks. He couldn't change his character in over a decade of knowing him what was he gonna do wave a magic wand? Is he going to open him up from the back between rounds and put a new battery pack in after 4 rounds when he is exhausted?

        Tysons prime was apparently at the youngest of anybody else to ever walk the face of the earth as was his peak which conveniently ended the moment someone gave it him back! What a coincidence.

        Everytime he stepped up, he lost! He either quit or got KTFO.



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        • #94
          Unbeatable with Cus by his side so long as he is fighting petrified journeymen

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          • #95
            I love how people act like trainers can make fighters unbeatable. You guys have watched too much WWE
            Last edited by dan_cov; 09-28-2021, 02:01 PM.

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            • #96
              Even mid 90s Tyson would clear out todays division.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by BangEM View Post

                You lot need to stop the Cus nonsense. Boxers change trainers all the time. It’s not like Cus was a HoF trainer that led countless HWs to greatness before Mike Tyson and Cus was already dead by the time Tyson started winning titles.

                Tyson was just an overrated fighter who couldn’t go past 5-6 rds. Once you take him to the later rds, he becomes useless. And he was very one dimensional.

                I believe he’d have bitten Usyk’s ear off as well after getting tagged all night with a straight left.
                Thats exactly what Cus D'Amato is. He trained Floyd Patterson from the time he was an Amateur, and made Mike Tyson. The two youngest heavyweight champions in history were crafted from scratch by this guy.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
                  The anti-Tyson brigade keeps calling him a quitter, mostly based on the second Holyfield fight.

                  In reality, Tyson quit only once: in his last fight against Kevin McBride. And right then and there, he also quit boxing.

                  His other defeats:

                  Buster Douglas: having not trained seriously for an opponent perceived as unthreatening, still Tyson didn't quit, he was outfought and knocked out. And he knocked Douglas down in the 8th round, lest one forgets.
                  Evander Holyfield I: he fought hard until the very end before succumbing.
                  Evander Holyfield II: he snapped in a round he was winning handily.
                  Lennox Lewis: a beyond shot, bankrupt, drugged Tyson tries his best but gets overwhelmed and knocked out - not without effort - by the best heavyweight of that period.
                  Danny Williams: everybody conveniently forgets that in the first round Tyson injured a knee after having lifted Williams from the ground with an uppercut. After the first round his mobility was severely reduced, and Williams knocked him out exclusively for that reason.

                  And - speaking of factual correctness - D'Amato was named CUS, not Gus.
                  Then Joshua and everyone else can just list excuses for their losses and everyone can just call themselves unbeaten in their prime. The Tyson excuses are laughable. He just wasn't that good. Joshua is not elite, but he's three times the fighter Douglas was, and Douglas was better than Tyson. Nash out.

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                  • #99
                    NO WAY in hell could AJ beat Tyson...sh it, I would STILL give Mike a chance against A.J. TODAY... Slow with a glass chin. He gets KTFO in less than 4.

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                    • We've already seen what Iron Mike did to Bruno, it'll just be a repeat with Joshua.
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