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  • Pigeons
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    Pedraza when he was undefeated ( before Loma), Leo and Barrios at 140. There is absolutely nothing wrong with those fights.

    He answers questions about other boxers. He is not required to speak about them in glowing fashion.

    We don’t know what will happen if he loses. You can have that opinion.

    If Tank were Tankovich from Eastern Europe you wouldn’t discuss his opponents just the ko wins.

    A lot of you guys seem really mad that Tank is the big draw at LW and will fight dudes on his terms.

    Have you ever thought the reason he is successful so far is because of the ridiculous hate you guys spew toward him?

    Oh man smh "Mario Barrios at 140". You know it's funny how on one hand you claim posters being biased for EE fighters while on the other hand you're slurping Davis. Do you have the ability to stop for a second and think if "Tank were Tankovich" from EE if YOU would be slurping him like you are right now? You think you'd be going around thread to thread fellating him?

    Of course not man. It's a black thing, and it's cool we all know it, but that don't make him anything bigger than what he is, a 2-time 130 lb. champion still finding his balls at 27 years old. He'll find them eventually I'm sure, if the recurring herpes on his lip is any sign.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #32
      Originally posted by Pigeons

      Oh man smh "Mario Barrios at 140". You know it's funny how on one hand you claim posters being biased for EE fighters while on the other hand you're slurping Davis. Do you have the ability to stop for a second and think if "Tank were Tankovich" from EE if YOU would be slurping him like you are right now? You think you'd be going around thread to thread fellating him?

      Of course not man. It's a black thing, and it's cool we all know it, but that don't make him anything bigger than what he is, a 2-time 130 lb. champion still finding his balls at 27 years old. He'll find them eventually I'm sure, if the recurring herpes on his lip is any sign.
      Stop over exaggerating. Barrios is a solid win. I didn’t proclaim it a great win.

      What slurping? I didn’t say anything extravagant about Tank. I didn’t say he was the best. I simply said he was a draw whose got a solid resume.

      First you flat out lied about what I’ve said about Tank. Where did I make him bigger than he is?

      Then you brought up race, the typical weapon used when I push back against unfair criticism about a boxer that happens to be black with facts and points you can’t refute.

      If Tank were a non American he wouldn’t receive anywhere near the criticism he does. You know it. all you fish would talk about is his ko wins. Not a word about comp level.

      This happens almost every time a new non American power puncher hits the scene. Tank would be treated like Ggg or Matthysse 2nd coming.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-28-2021, 09:58 AM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        Stop over exaggerating. Barrios is a solid win. I didn’t proclaim it a great win.

        What slurping? I didn’t say anything extravagant about Tank. I didn’t say he was the best. I simply said he was a draw whose got a solid resume.

        First you flat out lied about what I’ve said about Tank. Where did I make him bigger than he is?

        Then you brought up race, the typical weapon used when I push back against unfair criticism about a boxer that happens to be black with facts and points you can’t refute.

        If Tank were a non American he wouldn’t receive anywhere near the criticism he does. You know it. all you fish would talk about is his ko wins. Not a word about comp level.

        This happens almost every time a new non American power puncher hits the scene. Tank would be treated like Ggg or Matthysse 2nd coming.
        Why don't you post about Vergil Ortiz with the same passion as you post about Gervonta Davis? American, big puncher, has beaten nice comp for a 23-year old.

        Man I can only imagine how badly you'd be sucking him off if he was black and fighting for PBC. You would be riding him my man. Believe it or not, you're the exact same as those Golovkin ****riders from 5 years back, you're just black and you ride for the brothers. And if that brother is with PBC? You're getting the hot pants out!

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          #34
          Originally posted by Pigeons

          Why don't you post about Vergil Ortiz with the same passion as you post about Gervonta Davis? American, big puncher, has beaten nice comp for a 23-year old.

          Man I can only imagine how badly you'd be sucking him off if he was black and fighting for PBC. You would be riding him my man. Believe it or not, you're the exact same as those Golovkin ****riders from 5 years back, you're just black and you ride for the brothers. And if that brother is with PBC? You're getting the hot pants out!
          Ortiz doesn’t get hated on NSB. Little is said about the quality of his opposition. there isn’t the same false narrative for me to push back against.

          I push back on the false narrative about Tank’s resume. It’s ok if you don’t like Tank but you will not make the false narrative true by using race based negative speculation to try and paint me a certain way because you can’t refute the points I’ve made.

          Point out where I’ve elevated Tank above where he should be or gave him undue praise. Find the posts where I’ve made him out to be better than he is.

          You can’t because I haven’t.

          You can continue to lie and over exaggerate about what I’ve posted about Tank. That will not change the fact if he were a non American he wouldn’t be subjected to the same level of criticism.

          The black stuff and pbc stuff from you only proves my points valid. If they weren’t, you’d find a way to respond without deflecting to race.

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            #35
            Originally posted by iamboxing
            Mayweather has been a cancer to the sport ever since he made it a thing to keep an undeafeated record. People paid to watch him to see if he would lose. His fight against Pacquiao was the last PPV a lot of previous boxing fans bought. They all jumped ship to the UFC.
            This is dumb as f-ck.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Cypocryphy

              Tank is a hype job. No two ways about it. If you look up hype job in the dictionary, it says Gervonta Davis. It’s true. Google it.
              Protected fighter absolutely , a hypejob, nope not with those skills and chin.

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              • True-Boxing-Fan
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                #37
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                Not in this era. When you’re a network employee you don’t decide who you fight, they do.

                I disagree completely about Tank. His career is in no way a joke. He has a solid resume for someone his age.

                Crawford got overpaid by Bob. Anyone would’ve taken that money. You can’t judge his whole career based on just ww.

                These same guys have smacked around all their foreign competition. Just saying…..
                For what his people are making Tank out to be, his resume is garbage.

                Name is best win, so we can all laugh.

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                • Clegg
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                  #38
                  It does make me worry for the future of the sport. It's not just an American thing, it seems to be true of almost any fighter who has a fanbase and a belt. They look to play the risk/reward game so much that some guys are in their 30s before we really learn how good they are. And on the promotional side, a lot of them seem to have too many fighters and not enough dates, or just not enough money, because so many boxers do not fight often enough.

                  Looking at it from a UK POV, one difference our boxing culture has over the US is that we want our guys to face each other. When DeGale and Groves were in the same division they fought early because there was fan demand for it. Whereas American fans seem kinda content when their top prospects don't face each other, and when their top champs don't face each other. A lot of Spence fans wanted him to face Pac instead of Crawford for example.

                  But like I say most nationalities are guilty of it. Munguia and Zurdo were undefeated belt holders who could've achieved more by now. Instead they faced nobody and took no risk and then vacated to move up in weight and take low risk fights some more. That sort of thing never used to happen even 10 years ago, you moved up to take on a challenge not just to wait 2-3 years until a vacant belt popped up.

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    Pedraza when he was undefeated ( before Loma), Leo and Barrios at 140. There is absolutely nothing wrong with those fights.

                    He answers questions about other boxers. He is not required to speak about them in glowing fashion.

                    We don’t know what will happen if he loses. You can have that opinion.

                    If Tank were Tankovich from Eastern Europe you wouldn’t discuss his opponents just the ko wins.

                    A lot of you guys seem really mad that Tank is the big draw at LW and will fight dudes on his terms.

                    Have you ever thought the reason he is successful so far is because of the ridiculous hate you guys spew toward him?

                    You got me all wrong my guy. I'm a boxing fan. Not a tribal nut slurper. That's the difference between me and you. Just keeping it 100.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by iamboxing
                      Mayweather has been a cancer to the sport ever since he made it a thing to keep an undeafeated record. People paid to watch him to see if he would lose. His fight against Pacquiao was the last PPV a lot of previous boxing fans bought. They all jumped ship to the UFC.
                      I agree.

                      Everybody cherrypicks here and there but Floyd pretty much destroyed big time boxing by overmarinating and cherrypicking half his career.

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