Comments Thread For: Eddie Hearn Ranks Oleksandr Usyk Number Two Pound-For-Pound, After Only Canelo

[MrShakeAndBake]

I dont care if Eddie has Clenelo on his payroll.
A known drug cheat SHOULD never be praised as P4P anywhere, once a cheat always a cheat..and he lost to Mayweather and first GGG fight...

1. Usyk
2. Crawford
3. Loma
4. Naoya
5. Fury

My list is based on skills and accomplishments in boxing.

[Oldskoolg]

Canelo really hates cardio man. You can tell. I think he can't run because he has a bad knee. Show me some clips of Canelo running or doing jump rope. I dare anyone to find me some clips.

And I hear he used to balloon up north of 200 lbs

[Mexican_Puppet]

As long as Canelo is on that special tea and Mexican beef he’s going to stay on the p4p list……stamina problems have vanished

This jerk does not know about boxing.

Canelo thrown the same amount of punches than 5 years ago...

[Mexican_Puppet]

I dont care if Eddie has Clenelo on his payroll.
A known drug cheat SHOULD never be praised as P4P anywhere, once a cheat always a cheat..and he lost to Mayweather and first GGG fight...

1. Usyk
2. Crawford
3. Loma
4. Naoya
5. Fury

My list is based on skills and accomplishments in boxing.

Is not only Eddie, all the experts of Asia, USA and Europe has Canelo like the #1, boxingscene list, compubox list, etc.

Canelo was clean when he beat Lara, GGG, Jacobs, Smith, Trouth, Saunders, Kovalev, and that si way better accomplishment in boxing than Crawford, Usyk, Loma, etc.

[Oldskoolg]

This jerk does not know about boxing.

Canelo thrown the same amount of punches than 5 years ago...

Oh do come along now my dear sycophant…..the Reynoso camp is juiced to the gills. I’m not Mexican American so I dont worship fighters from Mexico

[Mexican_Puppet]

Usyk is an excellent fighter and deserves the #2 spot.

But...

Joshua is not near in the top-20 P4P list.

Breidis, Glowacki, etc, are not near of the top-30 Best fighters in the world.

Cruiserweight division always, year by year, is one of the worst division in boxing, Usyk is the exception but his rivals are not élite talent, globally.


In few words: he never foght against another P4P.

His win vs Joshua was great because the weight, Joshua was too much heavier than him, and that is dangerous, but nothing more.


Canelo has way better resume...

Usyk neet to beat Wilder or Fury.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Oh do come along now my dear sycophant…..the Reynoso camp is juiced to the gills. I’m not Mexican American so I dont worship fighters from Mexico

I know, You are a lyer with mental issues.

Canelo thrown 450 punches vs Trouth.

Canelo thrown 500 punches vs Golovkin.

Same stamina....

You can imagine what You disorderer brain want to do, reality is canelo is the most tested fighter in boxing right now, read...

[Line305b]

Is not only Eddie, all the experts of Asia, USA and Europe has Canelo like the #1, boxingscene list, compubox list, etc.

Canelo was clean when he beat Lara, GGG, Jacobs, Smith, Trouth, Saunders, Kovalev, and that si way better accomplishment in boxing than Crawford, Usyk, Loma, etc.

I guess what we are comparing here is:

- Did Canelo go up a division and beat the top guy there in his prime?

- That seems to be a "No", unless we count GGG being in his prime when he fought with Canelo, and presuming Canelo came from 154 for that fight.. and that may not be true, because Canelo waited until GGG did not look so good anymore. Other guys - good, but not really top dogs, rather cherry picking.

- So, for Canelo to match against Usyk he would need to go to 168 or 175 and beat one of two top guys there, probably Beterbiev or Bivol.

Based on that, one could say, well, Canelo is a good fighter, and everything, but when it comes to really taking up a challenge, he does not seem to be as inclined as Usyk.

So, Usyk higher in P4P ranking based on that metric.

Or?

[Line305b]

Usyk is an excellent fighter and deserves the #2 spot.

But...

Joshua is not near in the top-20 P4P list.

Breidis, Glowacki, etc, are not near of the top-30 Best fighters in the world.

Cruiserweight division always, year by year, is one of the worst division in boxing, Usyk is the exception but his rivals are not élite talent, globally.


In few words: he never foght against another P4P.

His win vs Joshua was great because the weight, Joshua was too much heavier than him, and that is dangerous, but nothing more.


Canelo has way better resume...

Usyk neet to beat Wilder or Fury.

- Why don't you suggest Canelo needs to beat Bivol or Beterbiyev? They are not P4P, so should be easy for him, no

[vital1983]

Why #2 after Canelo, for gods sake? Equivalent to what Usyk just did, for Canelo, would be to move to 175 or cruiser and challenge the top dogs there and win, no?

Canelo did not do that, so how he would be ranked above Usyk? Until Canelo beats Beterbiev or Bivol, he's probably not the same level of risk taking and winning.

Not sure why Hearn says what he says, but it sounds like he has obligations towards Canelo and does not want to disrespect him. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in any division to match Usyk's dare against the top dog in heavyweight.

You do know that Canelo has moved up multiple weights, not just 2....and don't compare Joshua to some of Canelos opponents.