Is Usyk the best 19-0 fighter in history?

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  • medic5678
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    #31
    The best fighter in a Black History Month costume? That was Deyontay Wilder... Oh, wait... he got knocked the FWCK out.. .

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    • RightJabLikeZab
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      #32
      Yes. If Holyfield got an immediate shot at Tyson in his 19th fight it would be him easily.

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        #33
        It wasn’t a gift. It was a close fight.

        Against a guy who won every round against Felix Trinidad, won 18 of 24 rounds against Shane Mosley and became the only three belt undisputed super welterweight champion in history.

        Winky Wright is better than anyone Usyk has faced.

        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        Nah……

        We all know he got a gift vs Winky too.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #34
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
          It wasn’t a gift. It was a close fight.

          Against a guy who won every round against Felix Trinidad, won 18 of 24 rounds against Shane Mosley and became the only three belt undisputed super welterweight champion in history.

          Winky Wright is better than anyone Usyk has faced.


          Nah Winky clearly won that fight.

          The Trinidad he beat was pretty shot too.

          Usyk has a better collection of wins than Vargas had in 19 fights, none were controversial either.

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            #35
            Originally posted by RightJabLikeZab
            Yes. If Holyfield got an immediate shot at Tyson in his 19th fight it would be him easily.
            Yeah Tyson > AJ obviously but I’m not sure Holyfield was ready after 18 fights, I feel he needed a few fights at HW to acclimate to the division.

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              #36
              I guess but a lot of these guys staying late into the amateurs before going pro have kind of changed things. Usually we think of 20 fights as some 19 year old or whatever. but you got guys now who have went through 2 olympics ect. A lot of the euro guys doing it. I guess what it does show is that amateur experience really can cross over to pro experience, especially for these guys mid 20s.

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              • dan_cov
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                #37
                Beating 9 fighters all virtually world class with several being elite in their own backyard is extremely impressive given the bs advantages hometown fighters get with referees, ring size, judges etc
                If most didn't have such advantages they wouldn't be where they are today and a lot of fighters crack under pressure and don't perform as well away from home same as in other sports.

                It certainly has to count for something especially in this era. I mean look at the fight with Chisora the ring was basically the size of a damn telephone box

                Too answer the question I think so. He has the best resume and is the most accomplished 19-0 fighter I can think of and I can't really even think of a close second.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  Beating 9 fighters all virtually world class with several being elite in their own backyard is extremely impressive given the bs advantages hometown fighters get with referees, ring size, judges etc
                  If most didn't have such advantages they wouldn't be where they are today and a lot of fighters crack under pressure and don't perform as well away from home same as in other sports.

                  It certainly has to count for something especially in this era. I mean look at the fight with Chisora the ring was basically the size of a damn telephone box

                  Too answer the question I think so. He has the best resume and is the most accomplished 19-0 fighter I can think of and I can't really even think of a close second.
                  Since Usyk is 34, who would you call the most accomplished 34 year old?

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