Heavyweight top 15 based on reality and not fantasy

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  • REDEEMER
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    #31
    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
    1. Tyson Fury
    2. Deontay Wilder
    3. Luis Ortiz
    4. Oleksander Usyk
    5. Joe Joyce
    6. Michael Hunter
    7. Otto Wallin
    8. Anthony Joshua
    9. Dillian Whyte
    10. Joseph Parker
    11. Andy Ruiz
    12. Oscar Rivas
    13. Agit Kabayel
    14. Dereck Chisora
    15. Robert Helenius
    Based on reality but you couldn’t make it past even number 3 with Ortiz and Rivas included who hasn’t fought a top guy in years and his next fight isn’t at heavyweight . ?
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-04-2021, 09:48 AM.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #32
      AJ at 8? Come on man even I wouldn’t rank him that low.

      The only possible justification for a ranking that low is you’re penalizing him for having ****Em and Redeemer as fans.

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      • PBR Streetgang
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        #33
        It's amazing how much run Ortiz gets for two KO losses. It would be one thing if his resume was any good but his best win came over 6 years ago.

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        • hugh grant
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          #34
          Originally posted by Nash out

          A list worthy of respect. People may say Joshua should be higher, but he has not beaten any of the 7 above him, and would he? A case could be put forward for Hunter and Wallin, but none of the others. Agreed with Luis Oldtiz, he deserves respect for two great fights with the world number 2, and would definitely beat everyone below him, aside from I'm 50-50 on him and Usyk. Great work as always Shane. Nash out.
          Josh not beat top 7, and who have they beat to be above josh? Can't have Wilder, ortiz, hunter, joyce and wall in above josh solely on Josh not having beaten them?
          Josh has wins in bank. It's like you putting money in your bank and balance still zero, you'd not like that if your bank manager spent your money
          Last edited by hugh grant; 10-04-2021, 10:28 AM.

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          • Nash out
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            #35
            Originally posted by hugh grant

            Josh not beat top 7, and who have they beat to be above josh? Can't have Wilder, ortiz, hunter, joyce and wall in above josh solely on Josh not having beaten them?
            Josh has wins in bank. It's like you putting money in your bank and balance still zero, you'd not like that if your bank manager spent your money
            Josh can be ranked as high as 3, but I'm just saying that whilst most might think it is ludicrous putting Joshua so low, I can see the reasons behind it. I also think that Joshua may be damaged goods now. He outboxed Ruiz, so he trained to outbox Usyk, and that went badly wrong, his ego will have taken a battering, and on top of that, he seems reluctant to go back to his old style, the style that he suits best. Joshua isn't like Fury, who is world-class at multiple styles and stances, Joshua is only world-class in one fighting style. Nash out.

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            • Robbie Barrett
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              #36
              Even the most biased boxing fan would say that list is ridiculous.

              Wins over people on the list. Not counting rematch wins.

              Fury = 3
              Wilder = 1
              Usyk = 3
              Ortiz = 0
              Joyce = 0
              Hunter = 0
              Wallin = 0
              Joshua = 3
              Whyte = 4
              Parker = 2
              Ruiz = 1
              Rivas = 0
              Kabayel = 1
              Chisora = 0
              Helenius = 0

              Bias so obvious and clear.
              Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 10-04-2021, 11:39 AM.

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              • Sparked_26
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                #37
                As soon as I read that thread title I knew Ortiz would somehow feature high.

                I'm not sure Ortiz would beat anyone on the other 14 fighters listed either. He's ancient

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                • War Room
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tim Witherspoon
                  My top picks are


                  1) Ali
                  2) Witherspoon
                  3) Witherspoon
                  4) Witherspoon
                  5) Mike Tyson
                  6) Witherspoon
                  7) Witherspoon
                  8) Witherspoon
                  9) Witherspoon
                  10) Witherspoon
                  11 Witherspoon
                  12) Witherspoon
                  13) Witherspoon
                  14) Witherspoon
                  15) Witherspoon





                  HAHA!

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                  • Tim Witherspoon
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by War Room

                    HAHA!
                    I tried to be as unbias as possible when making that list lol

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                    • Kezzer
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                      #40
                      anyone can win one fight etc. this is my view taking into consideration opponents they have taken to date etc. wilder and fury amongst others can move up if they start taking up tougher opponents consistently.

                      1. Usyk
                      2. Joshua
                      3. Fury
                      4. Whyte
                      5. Wilder
                      6. Parker
                      7. Ruiz
                      8. Ortiz
                      9. Joyce
                      10. Pulev

                      Not sure why anyone would even consider wallin.

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