Heavyweight top 15 based on reality and not fantasy

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  • Affogato`
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    #21
    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
    7 rounds is one round away from a draw.

    Welcome to math.


    Hahahahaha as a math student I was laughing so hard after reading your comment, thanks for a joke.

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    • ShaneMosleySr
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      #22
      Post your top 15 in this thread please!

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      • Tim Witherspoon
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        #23
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        He almost beat Deontay Wilder who has a draw with the real heavyweight champion.

        Who has Usyk beaten? Joshua, Chisora and Witherspoon suck.


        I do? Come on I was 2x heavy weight champion of the world that must count for something!
        Last edited by Tim Witherspoon; 10-07-2021, 06:08 AM.

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        • Tim Witherspoon
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          #24
          My top picks are


          1) Ali
          2) Witherspoon
          3) Witherspoon
          4) Witherspoon
          5) Mike Tyson
          6) Witherspoon
          7) Witherspoon
          8) Witherspoon
          9) Witherspoon
          10) Witherspoon
          11 Witherspoon
          12) Witherspoon
          13) Witherspoon
          14) Witherspoon
          15) Witherspoon






          Last edited by Tim Witherspoon; 10-04-2021, 06:28 AM.

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          • Get em up
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            #25
            1. Fury
            2. Usyk
            3. Wilder / A.J

            The rest is a crap shoot

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            • KP1
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              #26
              Nice attention seeking list, got a few bites though.

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              • earl_grey
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                #27
                It’s your list and I respect that … but strange to have Wilder and Ortiz above Usyk and Joshua and Joyce. Joshua has the best resume hands down of any current heavyweight. Only two loses, one set up by a punch from the boxing gods, so to speak, and one close decision loss to a top level boxer where he made the same mistake Canelo made in trying to outbox the superior boxer Mayweather. He just lost to Usyk, who is THE guy at Cruiserweight and Heavyweight, no shame in loosing a decision where you look game and keep it close, same as a close decision loss to Mayweather like Maidana had, only makes your stock rises. Same for Joshua.

                Joyce is an absolute Huggernot, and Imovvable Object who has the chin of a Tua and the Jab of a Lennox.

                As for while Wilder has only looked great against nobodies and drew with a Fury who should have still been taking tune up fights after loosing all the weight he was nowhere near his best. Furu doesn’t even have a great chin, albeit he does have great recovery, and Deontay didn’t even keep him down when landing clean in the first fight twice to most vulnerable parts of the head (back of head in ninth round, temple in twelfth round). It’s almost like ranking Spadafora in the top five because he roughed up an out of shape Mayweather a bit that one time in sparring. Especially when we saw Fury take a couple right hands clean and walk through them.

                While I’m on that train of thought, Wilder couldn’t even drop Duhaupas once, who has lead for feet, even though he landed about six unanswered haymakers on his chin and temple before it was waved off. So I get it, Wilder has great power and that’s about it, but even then, his power isn’t top 50 all time and probably only top 5 of the current heavyweights, behind 1. Joshua 2. Fury 3. Whyte 4. Usyk. 5. Wilder. Yes, I know everyone says Wilder can end any fight if he lands right, but so can about half of all heavyweights no matter their overall skill level.

                And Ortiz has only looked half good against C level opposition, which is frankly all he ever fights. But that’s just my opinion. If he were to fight Usyk, Joshua, a focused and healthy Fury, or even someone a bit lower like Parker or Hunter he gets absolutely clowned most likely and I don’t get why he always gets ranked so high because of the first Wilder fight. That one c-level Polish bald guy whose name I can’t remember made Wilder look poorly also before getting sparked out, and it seems just as odd and undeserved to see Ortiz ranked top three as it would be to see him up there.

                and Helenius? Same thing, shouldn’t be in this list in my view. A prospect that never really came good, has one good win against a vastly overrated Kownacki.

                Needless to say, Wilder, Ortiz, and Helenius don’t make my top 15, but I’d like to say big ups for ranking Whyte and Parker, two of my favorites, and for giving Hunter a mention; he’s a likable guy, a funny guy and deserves some credit.

                Just my two cents for the sake of spirited debate and conversation. That’s just the way I see it, and you are entitled to your own opinion, obviously…

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                • hugh grant
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                  #28
                  1)fury 2)usyk 3)Josh 4) whyte,joyce,wilder, etc etc

                  I think no4 spot is up for grabs

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                  • Nash out
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tritium_arma

                    Tyson should have a loss to McDermott.
                    Fury was a domestic boxer then, and everyone was influenced by the terrible, biased sky commentary of David Haye and somebody else. I agreed with the ref, I had it 98-92 Fury. Mcdermott competed but had no case at all for a win or draw, but sheep will be sheep. Nash out.

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                    • Nash out
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                      1. Tyson Fury
                      2. Deontay Wilder
                      3. Luis Ortiz
                      4. Oleksander Usyk
                      5. Joe Joyce
                      6. Michael Hunter
                      7. Otto Wallin
                      8. Anthony Joshua
                      9. Dillian Whyte
                      10. Joseph Parker
                      11. Andy Ruiz
                      12. Oscar Rivas
                      13. Agit Kabayel
                      14. Dereck Chisora
                      15. Robert Helenius
                      A list worthy of respect. People may say Joshua should be higher, but he has not beaten any of the 7 above him, and would he? A case could be put forward for Hunter and Wallin, but none of the others. Agreed with Luis Oldtiz, he deserves respect for two great fights with the world number 2, and would definitely beat everyone below him, aside from I'm 50-50 on him and Usyk. Great work as always Shane. Nash out.

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