Jennings. How much does his career disprove the "Ortiz was old af Bum & beat nobody" claims?

[kushking]

Bear with me if I'm mistaken because I'm going straight off live memory of the fight.:

Bryant Jennings surprised tons of ppl vs Klitschko because after yrs of refs letting Klit bearhug/tieup mofckas whenever they got inside,the ref v Jennings actually held klit accountable for cheating. And yet somehow Jennings lost 10 rds on 1 judges card despite 1 pt deduction for klit. Klitschko was exposed that night & Jennings set the blueprint for others to follow.

Jennings was the 1st hw in a decade to actually test Klit & frustrated the hell outta him.

The very next fight for Jennings was Luis Ortiz,& Ortiz kod him in the 7th by battering after a great fight where Jennings gave a great account for himself.

I constantly hear how much of a bum Ortiz was from many,& that Wilder doesn't deserve credit for koing a Undefeated Ortiz who almost kod Wilder in both fights & made Wilder look like he wanted to quit. (I said before Fury rematch that I see Fury koing him for that reason & was laughed at by everyone)

[dan_cov]

The problem is his only notable win is Jennings who in truth was just a solid top 5-10 guy really. Jennings giving Wladimir a fight looking back was probably more due to some slippage from the great old man.

I feel a lot of the ''hate'' for Ortiz isn't so much to discredit Wilder its sheer disappointment that Ortiz's career was so largely wasted even if he was avoided which he certainly was a good few years back.
Even if he is old which he is and even if he was overrated I think most boxing fans expected a bit more than that from him. There are no participation trophies in boxing, people look at his record and just see his only standout win is Jennings who in truth was no world beater.

I'm a big fan of Ortiz but truth is the criticism is warranted. Ortiz has beaten nobody but Jennings who again isn't great.

[Robbie Barrett]

Jennings did nothing more than win a few rounds against Klitschko. Hilarious that somehow people think that translates in to a great win for Ortiz. Jennings has literally done nothing else worth mentioning.

[kushking]

The problem is his only notable win is Jennings who in truth was just a solid top 5-10 guy really. Jennings giving Wladimir a fight looking back was probably more due to some slippage from the great old man.

I feel a lot of the ''hate'' for Ortiz isn't so much to discredit Wilder its sheer disappointment that Ortiz's career was so largely wasted even if he was avoided which he certainly was a good few years back.
Even if he is old which he is and even if he was overrated I think most boxing fans expected a bit more than that from him. There are no participation trophies in boxing, people look at his record and just see his only standout win is Jennings who in truth was no world beater.

I'm a big fan of Ortiz but truth is the criticism is warranted. Ortiz has beaten nobody but Jennings who again isn't great.

If Klit was so washed then that'd mean AJ & Fury don't deserve credit as klit was older v them.(meaning the same can be said about them as Klit is boths best win)

That being said its not a participation trophy that Ortiz battered Jennings by brutal kd followed by stoppage in 7 rds when Klit couldn't the fight before.

[Robbie Barrett]

If Klit was so washed then that'd mean AJ & Fury don't deserve credit as klit was older v them.(meaning the same can be said about them as Klit is boths best win)

That being said its not a participation trophy that Ortiz battered Jennings by brutal kd followed by stoppage in 7 rds when Klit couldn't the fight before.

Difference is Fury and Joshua actually beat Klitschko, you're giving credit to Jennings for losing.

[kushking]

Jennings did nothing more than win a few rounds against Klitschko. Hilarious that somehow people think that translates in to a great win for Ortiz. Jennings has literally done nothing else worth mentioning.

He went 12 with klit & did better than anyone in a decade,Ortiz stopped him in 7 the very next fight.

That alone means he was a solid win for Ortiz who was 1st to ko him. (1 upping a decade unified Klitschko is an accomplishment)

[dan_cov]

There is a huge difference they actually beat Klitschko, Jennings never and actually didn't come close.

And Wladimir certainly wasn't washed but most likely starting to slip and expectedly considering he was approaching 40.

[kushking]

Difference is Fury and Joshua actually beat Klitschko, you're giving credit to Jennings for losing.

No my point is that Jennings was a solid W by ko because Klit was unable to
(Im not saying AJ/Fury didn't deserve credit, I'm saying that Ortiz was no bum & koing jennings shows that)

[dan_cov]

Styles make fights and maybe Wladimir had a bit of an off night.

Wladimir as good/great as he was was a rather basic headhunter that fought from long range. Quite a few shared opponents fared better vs Wladimir than they did vs much lesser fighters in particular ones that could either fight on the inside or wasn't as safety-first.
Eddie Chambers made Wladimir look cr4p, Mchunu made him look like he'd never boxed a day in his life.

Chisora for example has done much better against shared opposition than AJ he might even vs Usyk doesn't mean he deserves heaps more credit or make him better than AJ or anything. Styles make fights

[Robbie Barrett]

He went 12 with klit & did better than anyone in a decade,Ortiz stopped him in 7 the very next fight.

That alone means he was a solid win for Ortiz who was 1st to ko him. (1 upping a decade unified Klitschko is an accomplishment)

Wallin won a few rounds against Fury, if Whyte stops him is that a great win?