Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Takes The (Surprisingly Uncommon) Leap

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  • billeau2
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    #11
    I would encourage people to ask yourself a question and hint: the answer is all over Youtube, a great resource to pull up fights. When cruisers came up to challenge, when was a heavyweight's size the impediment to them winning? So for example, was Joe Frazier really big compared to Bob Foster? Was Spinks really small next to Tyson? How much bigger was Dempsey than Tunney? Did Bowe dominate Holyfield for 3 fights? or not? and if so, was it because he was just so much bigger? Did Toney have problems, because he was a blown up middle weight? because he was competitive with every heavy he fought.

    You will find that seldom is the size difference the reason a cruiser is shut down. yes there is a measure for a heavyweight which is partially based on weight and also on bone size (frame) etc... But the issue of size and Usyk's chances because of the size difference is exaggerated to a great degree.

    Here in an example: James Toney, like Usyk is a very skilled boxer with many skills... He probably has a better chin than Usyk, though who really knows? but he fought big heavyweights like Sam Peter and arguably should have had his hand raised in at least one of those fights. And people forget that Usyk has more experience at heavyweight than Witherspoon and Chisora, including a fight where he easily beat Joyce, a big heavyweight with heavy hands and power.

    For Joshua to win this fight he has to be "better" than Usyk, not only bigger. I don't know if people get this point, or not...

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    • IAMTHAT
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      #12
      Nah dude I just saw the press conference and them next to each other and Usyk is getting squashed and I’m a huge Usyk fan

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      • MrShakeAndBake
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        #13
        Originally posted by IAMTHAT
        Nah dude I just saw the press conference and them next to each other and Usyk is getting squashed and I’m a huge Usyk fan
        Usyk is taller then Andy Ruiz , he be aight....

        WAR USYK
        Last edited by MrShakeAndBake; 09-23-2021, 08:54 PM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Get em up

          I think what set Holyfield apart was his chin. In his better days the dude could stand and **** with the best of them I wonder how Usyk can hold up after a big shot from A.J. I also think his best chance would be coming in at 215 or around there and trying to beat A.J. with movement and alot of punches. I'm not sure he can do it any other way. I'm intrigued by this fight though that's for sure
          I second all you said. If people think Usyk’s best chance is to outbox AJ, then he will have to put it on early. That being said is he willing to engage the taller bigger fighter right away instead of giving AJ’s early power respect? If AJ’s Jab snaps Usyks head back that could be a long night for Usyk. I’ve heard Usyk will be bigger and stronger, but let’s see at the weigh in. I think he won’t be over 220lbs and will try to outbox like you said. AJ can stick and move also. There might not be a lot of people niches thrown. Usyks pale skin will mark up easier. Is Usyk so good and AJ so bad that Usyk piles enough on to get the win? Usyk will have to show better body language than he has shown at HW. He’s going to have to stand his ground and get the better of it if he want the nod.

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          • sallyField
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            #15
            breidis was robbed against usky, he landed the cleaner harder punches.

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            • Tag, You're Hit
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              #16
              AJ's chin isn't great. We've seen proof on several occasions. And while Usyk isn't a tremendous puncher, he is a tremendous technician. AJ's stamina also isn't great, though he's good at catching a second wind. I'm not saying Usyk wins, but if he does, it could be by capitalizing on those two things. I'm really interested to see how it all turns out. It's feeling very 50/50 to me, as with many others it seems.

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              • jaded
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                #17
                Originally posted by IAMTHAT
                Damn Usyk looks real small next to AJ. Im beginning to sway towards AJ by TKO
                To me, he looks smaller, but not small. Andy Ruiz looked small standing next to Joshua and KO'd him in the first fight, so I'm not concerned about the size difference.

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                • IAMTHAT
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake

                  Usyk is taller then Andy Ruiz , he be aight....

                  WAR USYK
                  I hope you’re right

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                  • Century Tuna
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by IAMTHAT
                    Nah dude I just saw the press conference and them next to each other and Usyk is getting squashed and I’m a huge Usyk fan
                    Nice prediction Usyk Fan

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                    • IAMTHAT
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Century Tuna

                      Nice prediction Usyk Fan
                      I dont mind being wrong. Excited to see how the HW arena will turn out in 2022

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