Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury: Anthony Joshua's Fought Not One Heavyweight in His Prime

[Rodtang]

wait, so you’re saying Whyte and Ruiz are more dangerous than wilder and fury? Yeah ok. One of 2 things are happening here. Either you don’t know much about boxing or you’re such a huge AJ fan that you’ll say just about anything to defend him.

Ruiz is technically a better boxer than both Fury and Wilder. He just doesn't have the size, which would be his problem. I see him beating Wilder. Fury would be tricky for him as he's just a man mountain. Watch Furys fight against Steve Cunningham. He was being schooled and got dropped by a classier but weak punching cruiser, and had to change tactics from his usual dancing around to climbing all over him and smothering him, to tire Cunningham out. Fury would do the same to Ruiz Jr. Whyte will drop Fury inside of 4 rounds and from there it's a tough night for him. Wilder will plain just get destroyed by Whyte who will plough straight through him. Finkel and Haymon know this. It's not new news to them. So yeah I do know about boxing and that's my thoughts on those 2 specific fighters. If you want my thoughts on AJ. He beats them no problem and has a harder fight with Usyk. I'm not sure AJ beats Usyk. But hey I could be wrong and that's my opinions. None of us are right all the time. Let's enjoy the fights and see what happens.

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He and Hearn were totally downplaying any possibility of that happening until Fury took the bull by the horns and set up the Wilder fight. It was only after he outboxed Wilder in the1st and obliterated him in the 2nd, that they realized that they had no choice. Politics is a *****.

Hearn offered him AJ before Wilder was in the picture. How is Hearn down playing possibilities when Fury asked for a flat fee and Hearn offered him one only for Fury to say he didn’t want one and this was after Fury demanded 60% on Twitter . If anyone was down playing possibilities isn’t that Fury ?The guy literally crossed out things he asked for and even through up a number that’s not realistic .

The media attention both Fury and Wilder conjured up was a big lie ,which was Fury comes out in public and says AJ doesn’t want the Wilder fight as though everyone will forget the offers that were declined . Fury bigs himself up by claiming AJ is a coward and doesn’t even mention AJ offered Fury himself a fight and Fury lies about being the only Brit willing to face Wilder .

Two big liars and a big scam and here we are with Wilder and Fury still going at it instead of undisputed .

[Ropeydope]

Before Wilder 1 I only remember AJ saying publicly that Fury was irrelevant and the two trading barbs on Twitter and such. Honestly, I don’t get to caught up in politics. I do remember those headlines, but I’ll get excited when the fights get made and the fighters are face to face getting their instructions before actually touching gloves. The rest is just farts in a windstorm.

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Ruiz is technically a better boxer than both Fury and Wilder. He just doesn't have the size, which would be his problem. I see him beating Wilder. Fury would be tricky for him as he's just a man mountain. Watch Furys fight against Steve Cunningham. He was being schooled and got dropped by a classier but weak punching cruiser, and had to change tactics from his usual dancing around to climbing all over him and smothering him, to tire Cunningham out. Fury would do the same to Ruiz Jr. Whyte will drop Fury inside of 4 rounds and from there it's a tough night for him. Wilder will plain just get destroyed by Whyte who will plough straight through him. Finkel and Haymon know this. It's not new news to them. So yeah I do know about boxing and that's my thoughts on those 2 specific fighters. If you want my thoughts on AJ. He beats them no problem and has a harder fight with Usyk. I'm not sure AJ beats Usyk. But hey I could be wrong and that's my opinions. None of us are right all the time. Let's enjoy the fights and see what happens.

there’s so much ridiculousness with this I’m not even sure if it’s worth mentioning. But you using a fight between fury and Cunningham from over 8 yrs ago is crazy. Then you use all this triangle logic but ignore how wilder performed vs arreola as compared to Ruiz, you ignore how whyte got demolished by an old washed up povetkin, etc. nobody logically feels that whyte or Ruiz are better than wilder and fury.

[TMLT87]

Which top end wins do you consider to be more eye catching?

Beating Wilder from pillar to post in the 2nd fight was more impressive than any win AJ has gotten so far. And although it was pretty boring, beating Wlad in Germany in the manner Fury did is more impressive than going life and death with him in your hometown.

If AJ puts on a good performance vs Usyk and stops him, i'll rethink it.

[Rodtang]

I don’t care to see this fight again but Aj is in this position because of his own doing. Like I said, he tried to pull the mega A star card and both wilder and fury moved on without him to make their first and second fight and he’s been out in the cold ever since. You can use that “he was offered more money” argument with someone who does know any better but just because it was more money doesn’t mean it was a fair cut. Before pac fought mayweather, he was offered more money than he’s ever made but declined because it wasn’t a fair cut. He ended up making 3 times as much when the fight happened. Same exact scenario with ggg when Oscar tried to offer him a flat fee to fight canelo. When the fight happened, ggg made more than double the offer. Low ball offers are either a way to short change one fighter to give another a much larger cut or a way to avoid a fight but pretend you’re not.

Even that initial flat fee offer of 12mil was more than Wilder deserved. Tell me another fighter who has earned 12mil against AJ? Better yet tell me another fighter against whom Wilder could have fought to get 12 mil from at that time. 12 mil at that time was 6-8 times more than he ever earned before. So on what basis was he not getting a fair cut? And the offers only got bigger and the coward still didn't accept them. Tell me exactly what Wilder should be getting, because as i see it he ain't worth ****. And its a totally moot subject anyway as they've never wanted it and won't ever take it. They've never had a meeting, a discussion, nothing. Fury, I give some benefit of the doubt as he was always gonna go for Wilder before AJ. That's just common sense. Build yourself up against the weaker link to make the biggest fight as big as it can be. Be there's no excuse for fighting Schwarz and Wallin, when he should have been taking care of Wilder sooner. Then the whole fiasco of this year, with Team AJ working their butts off to make a huge fight the fans really want, whilst team Fury done sod all but criticise and whinge then end up back with his buddy Wilder. Such a joke, those 2 have turned this division into a farce.

[Rodtang]

Oh please. He was more dangerous because AJ couldn't nullify him in the way TF did. Fury beat Wlad in Dusseldorf, Germany, where you usually have to KO the home fighter to be awarded a draw.

Prior to the Fury fight, Wlad hadn't lost in 22 fights over 11 years. Yet he was somehow more dangerous 2 years later, having passed the 40yr old mark and not fought since?

Get real.

Get a KO to get a draw? In the history of boxing what fight has there ever been that a draw was awarded to a fighter that KOd someone? Do they have different rules in Germany? See that comment right there questions the integrity of your knowledge of the sport.

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Beating Wilder from pillar to post in the 2nd fight was more impressive than any win AJ has gotten so far. And although it was pretty boring, beating Wlad in Germany in the manner Fury did is more impressive than going life and death with him in your hometown.

If AJ puts on a good performance vs Usyk and stops him, i'll rethink it.

Wlad Klitschko is better then Wilder , Klitschko could knock him out if he came back and it would be a repeat what happened in their sparring session . AJ defeating Usyk wouldn’t really mean anything because he should win rather easy in terms of not getting rattled much and in control of the fight ,I don’t think it has any real meaning but to show he’s probably the only guy who should win comfortably against a Usyk . I don’t believe Usyk matches up good against him at all stylistically .

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Before Wilder 1 I only remember AJ saying publicly that Fury was irrelevant and the two trading barbs on Twitter and such. Honestly, I don’t get to caught up in politics. I do remember those headlines, but I’ll get excited when the fights get made and the fighters are face to face getting their instructions before actually touching gloves. The rest is just farts in a windstorm.

Well Furys been saying why he shouldn’t fight AJ the entire time with excuses so that’s really not true at all but taking things out of context . Fury coming back wasn’t going to jump in the ring with AJ right away so that’s why AJ said that , Hearn wasn’t going to let Fury have any excuses in a loss and offered him a 3 fight deal but Fury whined about it claiming the opponents were to hard and Hearn was trying to set him up ,those guys were Kuzman , Kaufman and Whyte .

Fury really talks a lot of nonsense,you have to be a hardcore fan to go along with it . Ha

[Rodtang]

there’s so much ridiculousness with this I’m not even sure if it’s worth mentioning. But you using a fight between fury and Cunningham from over 8 yrs ago is crazy. Then you use all this triangle logic but ignore how wilder performed vs arreola as compared to Ruiz, you ignore how whyte got demolished by an old washed up povetkin, etc. nobody logically feels that whyte or Ruiz are better than wilder and fury.

Whyte got knocked out by a good punch from a Povetkin who was being outboxed up until that point. Same happened to Ortiz against Wilder twice. **** happens sometimes. Why is the Cunningham fight not worth mentioning? Because it doesn't suit your opinion and you have no argument to it? I'm not with you on the Wilder vs Arreola thing. I didn't mention Arreola so explain the relevance please. In case your pointing out something that I have overlooked or am unaware of and may alter my perception of things.