Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua: Do I Need Tyson Fury On My Record? I Need It!

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Why do people keep saying KLITSCHKO was shot at 41 years. fury fought him 17 months earlier.did KLITSCHKO take punishment in the Fury fight that he was not the same fighter?. They both need each other, end of story.

Do you think he looked good against Fury though?

I thought Klitschko looked past it vs Fury never mind AJ.

He was a shell of the fighter he once was by the time he fought AJ.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Talk doesn't matter. Actions do. You seem to like your numbers, so here's some. 3 fighters and only 1 has actually made real offers to fight and that's AJ. Do the math on that one. NO BS HERE UK.

Three top tier fighters and two have fought and are fighting for a third time next month. AJ’s still yet to prove he’s willing to get in the ring with the top tier guys whichever way people wanna slice it and dice it.

I have no doubt AJ would fight either, he’s a fighter at the end of the day, but the people behind him, I’m not so sure.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Fury's already beaten 2 world number 1s for all the belts in theyre own back yards as the underdog & 2 of the top 3 are now in a trilogy fight. That's why he's number 1.
4 of Ajs last 6 were 38-41 year's old and shot & rematch clause has never boxed a top 2 heavyweight. Again don't say Klitschko, he was unranked on tbrb until after the fight because i dunno he was 41 shot & retired. Wlad got paid!
Bitd Mike Tyson murdered a 38 yr old Holmes who would arguably beat all of Ajs old men & he got no credit & got criticised for fighting him yet for rematch clause it's the norm. This division has fallen off a cliff into mediocrity.
All the top 3 in they're own way are as bad as each other. I blame the promoter's, i honestly believe they would all fight more regularly if they were allowed to.

Anthony Joshua has beaten Wladimir Kiltschko 'A better version of Kiltschko, in better condition and more motivated', and is now facing another Olympic Champion and undisputed Cruiser weight Champion 'Joshua has also defended his titles routinely against all comers'.

Tyson Fury as made zero defenses of his title.

It is easier being a underdog, nobody expects nothing of you accept yourself and your team. I have said this before and I will say it again? Tyson Fury cannot play Robin Hood anymore, he is now The King and everyone is coming for him 'Can he deal with that type of environment? When Tyson Fury steps up to face Deontay Wilder for the third time, he is venturing into the unknown as a champion'.

So far thus-far in his career, Tyson Fury through action has not really be a good champion. He has made zero defenses, and has reasons for not fighting most fighters 'Who people want to see him fight, Fury and his fanatics will invalidate most of his competitors continually'.

Note: I would Tyson Fury is number 1, mainly because he is unbeaten. But when you analyse his resume, Joshua has a deeper resume overall. But yes, I do rank Tyson Fury as number 1 right now 'Because he is unbeaten, and he started this new era' by beating Wladimir Kiltschko. It was a slight injustice that Wladimir Kiltschko never got a rematch, and I think he would of won the rematch 'But none of that happened so, here we are'.

[Rodtang]

Three top tier fighters and two have fought and are fighting for a third time next month. AJ’s still yet to prove he’s willing to get in the ring with the top tier guys whichever way people wanna slice it and dice it.

I have no doubt AJ would fight either, he’s a fighter at the end of the day, but the people behind him, I’m not so sure.

Oh their willing. Hence the offers. But if they're not accepted, what can you do. I believe Fury will get to it eventually. Problem is the longer he gets around to it, it may not be the same fight. Both could definitely lose along the way. So fighters need to learn to start accepting offers if they mean what they say. And its not just about those 3. Usyk and Whyte are up there. And with a flock of up and comers, the big fight might pass those guys by.

[CraigM]

Joshua need Fury but Fury dont need Joshua to cement his legacy. Simply because Joshua already lose and he lose badly by KO. Fury won't gain anything but money in beating Joshua. Sad but truth.

Yeah, because being undisputed Heavyweight champion doesn't cement a legacy at all

[TMLT87]

Three top tier fighters and two have fought and are fighting for a third time next month. AJ’s still yet to prove he’s willing to get in the ring with the top tier guys whichever way people wanna slice it and dice it.

Wheres the evidence that Wilder or for that matter Fury are actually top 3? who have they fought outside of each other that people currently rate as top HWs?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Oh their willing. Hence the offers. But if they're not accepted, what can you do. I believe Fury will get to it eventually. Problem is the longer he gets around to it, it may not be the same fight. Both could definitely lose along the way. So fighters need to learn to start accepting offers if they mean what they say. And its not just about those 3. Usyk and Whyte are up there. And with a flock of up and comers, the big fight might pass those guys by.

I don’t get into the offers, counter offers, contract sent, proof of funds and all the other he said-she said bullsh**. The fact remains the same, Wilder and Fury have fought and AJ hasn’t fought either. Until that changes, it’s clear what the problem is.

Nah still a clear top 3, Usyk hasn’t done sh** at HW yet and Whyte is trash. Usyk was an excellent Cruiserweight so he can potentially be a top HW but I have my reservations. Dillian Whyte will never be a top HW, any of the top 3 guys beat him easily.

[Rodtang]

I don’t get into the offers, counter offers, contract sent, proof of funds and all the other he said-she said bullsh**. The fact remains the same, Wilder and Fury have fought and AJ hasn’t fought either. Until that changes, it’s clear what the problem is.

Nah still a clear top 3, Usyk hasn’t done sh** at HW yet and Whyte is trash. Usyk was an excellent Cruiserweight so he can potentially be a top HW but I have my reservations. Dillian Whyte will never be a top HW, any of the top 3 guys beat him easily.

It is clear what the problem is. You may not get into that, but facts are facts, and if only one side is making the offers and they're being knocked back, then they can't be held accountable for those fights not happening. To say otherwise is burying your head in the sand. Usyk is a top fighter regardless of divisions and has to be given that respect for his accomplishments. He's actually done more than the so called top 3 but just in a different division. So clearly he's on that level and has just been waiting for the opportunity to show it in a different division, and the only issue is size and weight as clearly his ability level is well up there. It sounds like you don't like Whyte. That's your prerogative, but to say he's not a top heavyweight is unfair. Same as AJ, he's been an avoided fighter. I'm not big on Whyte but that's just fact. And despite that he still has one of the more solid resumes around. Fighters that dont get the opportunities shouldn't be lambasted for that. Haney and Andrade just some other examples of this. And we praise Fury and Wilder because they keep fighting each other in their own little division? No, that doesn't prove their the best. Their career success is over inflated by fans who fear their demise against the best. Also if Usyk sees of AJ, be prepared for those 2 to avoid him also as he'll be 2 much risk and little reward.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It is clear what the problem is. You may not get into that, but facts are facts, and if only one side is making the offers and they're being knocked back, then they can't be held accountable for those fights not happening. To say otherwise is burying your head in the sand. Usyk is a top fighter regardless of divisions and has to be given that respect for his accomplishments. He's actually done more than the so called top 3 but just in a different division. So clearly he's on that level and has just been waiting for the opportunity to show it in a different division, and the only issue is size and weight as clearly his ability level is well up there. It sounds like you don't like Whyte. That's your prerogative, but to say he's not a top heavyweight is unfair. Same as AJ, he's been an avoided fighter. I'm not big on Whyte but that's just fact. And despite that he still has one of the more solid resumes around. Fighters that dont get the opportunities shouldn't be lambasted for that. Haney and Andrade just some other examples of this. And we praise Fury and Wilder because they keep fighting each other in their own little division? No, that doesn't prove their the best. Their career success is over inflated by fans who fear their demise against the best. Also if Usyk sees of AJ, be prepared for those 2 to avoid him also as he'll be 2 much risk and little reward.

Those aren’t facts. Wilder’s team made an offer to AJ for example.

None of us have seen those offers, we don’t know the clauses, the figures, the details. It’s simply not worth talking about.

As I said, there’s a clear top three, two of them have fought, one hasn’t. That says it all.

Usyk has done nothing at HW yet, his best win is Dereck Chisora, a domestic level HW who’s like 1-5 in European title fights.

As for Whyte, he’s not skilled enough, not athletic enough and simply not good enough, he’s nowhere near the top guys. Not even in the conversation.

[REDEEMER]

He needs it because Joshua has yet to defeat a true champion. Fury has already beaten two.

Those two avoided AJ ,he has a much better win with the stoppage over Klitschko in his 19th fight . AJ has several title defenses ,he’s the man to beat and I put Usyk over Wilder as well not just Klitschko.