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  • #81
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Exactly.
    Not sure how Loma's fans or Team Lona can be upset at the path Teo is taking. How many rematches has Loma given after he won ?
    Floyd is TBE Floyd is TBE likes this.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Cypocryphy View Post

      I know boxing, how to box, looking at fight plans and understanding them. The first six rounds were Lomachenko trying to put himself in a position to maximamie the opportunity for his left arm. That's what he was doing. But Teofimo was making it extremely difficult, and it had nothing to do with is punching power. It was Teofimo controlling the space and moving to the left. When Loma realized that he'd have to risk serious injury, then he started using his right. And that's when everything changed. I know what these guys were doing, and Loma had been constantly trying to put himself in a position to open up opportunities for his left. Because Teofimo is such a good boxer, it was impossible, and he just had to risk it in the end. But even then, Loma was holding back a bit.
      Winning rds is the key. If Team Loma felt it was best NOT to win rds, their plan worked in Teo's favor.

      Move on and get another title.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

        Not sure how Loma's fans or Team Lona can be upset at the path Teo is taking. How many rematches has Loma given after he won ?
        His fans are mad because they never expected Teo to win. They didn’t care that there was no rematch clause.

        They would be fine if Loma didn’t rematch Teo if it was the other way.

        They just have to accept the fact he lost as a 7-1 favorite.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

          Winning rds is the key. If Team Loma felt it was best NOT to win rds, their plan worked in Teo's favor.

          Move on and get another title.
          Can’t do that. He gave that belt up rather than fight Haney.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            His fans are mad because they never expected Teo to win. They didn’t care that there was no rematch clause.

            They would be fine if Loma didn’t rematch Teo if it was the other way.

            They just have to accept the fact he lost as a 7-1 favorite.
            Accepting bad news is difficult to digest.
            Teo did what Loma has done after he won a fight, moved on.
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            • #86
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

              Can’t do that. He gave that belt up rather than fight Haney.
              Loma is still marketable and legit. A couple of high level wins could put interest in a redo.

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              • #87
                Lopez is being evasive deliberately here.
                Their first match was not a dominant performance on Lopez part by any conceivable scenario. If you watch that fight closely as a neutral, unbiased aficionados( I studied it on a few occasions) then you would have come to the conclusion that it was a LOT closer than the judges scored it. The first six rounds Lomachenko allowed Lopez to be the aggressor without paying for it. The Ukraine utilized a strategy that would have succeeded in a 15 round match but not a 12 rounder. He fought as if it was a marathon and he had rounds to give away while eventually taking over by the midway point. Very much Like Ali and Eusebio Pedroza used to do in their reigns. That was a faulty strategy and it went against him in the eyes of the judges.
                However was Lopez affective in his aggression? Actually NO. In the initial 6 rounds Lopez did not land any real significant punches to inflict damage to Lomachenko to take away his legs. Hd missed over 90 percent of his punches in those early rounds. They either missed by an inch, caught shoulders and gloves or missed entirely by a foot. He was essentially swinging at air the majority of the time. In general both men neutralized EACH OTHER in a strategic stalemate.
                The real fight didn't start until the 2nd half and here is gers interesting. The smaller Ukraine stepped up his aggressive posture and Lopez had no answer for it. Yes he had a moment where in desperation he responded in the final stanza but Lomachenko was able to step in on Lopez relatively easy cracking his mediocre defense and forcing the bigger man to not only back up but hold on in 3 occasions. Lopez was tiring and Lomachenko stepped up and took advantage of that and out punched and outfought Lopez in the latter half without sustaining any real significant counters in return. Lopez can't fight going backwards and neither sideways. His guard is totally out of position when the aggressor comes his way.
                Like Andre Ward I had this bout a draw. And yes it needs to be a redo because it makes for an exciting bout no matter where you stand. Unfortunately Lopez is less be frank here, Making ridiculous and insulting bad excuses for not rematching Lomachenko. His flaws were exposed and Lomachenko unlike the other competitors out there, has the right style to offset Lopez. Lopez thrives off of opponents who are stationary and not as defensively sound and versatile as Lomachenko. Those fighters make it easier for him to set the tone. Which is why he will go to 140 where there isn't an opponent with the kind of tools like a Lomachenko to disrupt his style.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Lomadeaux View Post

                  Dumb **** he was unifying a division. LMFAO.. These little ****ing boys on this forum.
                  Correction he was attempting to but failed miserably. Tell me where i was wrong in my statement? Fact is he didn't fight Haney. i didn't insinuate that he ducked him. However, i should know a di*ck guzzling Loma fan with his user name in honour of Loma will jump to his defence and throw insults without understanding .Get of your knees and take a deep breath for a second .Laughing with Ukraine cum stains round your mouth. Jog on

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                    Loma is still marketable and legit. A couple of high level wins could put interest in a redo.
                    Agree with you. But I think Teo is going to 140 if he wins.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by LEONIDAS26@ View Post
                      Lopez is being evasive deliberately here.
                      Their first match was not a dominant performance on Lopez part by any conceivable scenario. If you watch that fight closely as a neutral, unbiased aficionados( I studied it on a few occasions) then you would have come to the conclusion that it was a LOT closer than the judges scored it. The first six rounds Lomachenko allowed Lopez to be the aggressor without paying for it. The Ukraine utilized a strategy that would have succeeded in a 15 round match but not a 12 rounder. He fought as if it was a marathon and he had rounds to give away while eventually taking over by the midway point. Very much Like Ali and Eusebio Pedroza used to do in their reigns. That was a faulty strategy and it went against him in the eyes of the judges.
                      However was Lopez affective in his aggression? Actually NO. In the initial 6 rounds Lopez did not land any real significant punches to inflict damage to Lomachenko to take away his legs. Hd missed over 90 percent of his punches in those early rounds. They either missed by an inch, caught shoulders and gloves or missed entirely by a foot. He was essentially swinging at air the majority of the time. In general both men neutralized EACH OTHER in a strategic stalemate.
                      The real fight didn't start until the 2nd half and here is gers interesting. The smaller Ukraine stepped up his aggressive posture and Lopez had no answer for it. Yes he had a moment where in desperation he responded in the final stanza but Lomachenko was able to step in on Lopez relatively easy cracking his mediocre defense and forcing the bigger man to not only back up but hold on in 3 occasions. Lopez was tiring and Lomachenko stepped up and took advantage of that and out punched and outfought Lopez in the latter half without sustaining any real significant counters in return. Lopez can't fight going backwards and neither sideways. His guard is totally out of position when the aggressor comes his way.
                      Like Andre Ward I had this bout a draw. And yes it needs to be a redo because it makes for an exciting bout no matter where you stand. Unfortunately Lopez is less be frank here, Making ridiculous and insulting bad excuses for not rematching Lomachenko. His flaws were exposed and Lomachenko unlike the other competitors out there, has the right style to offset Lopez. Lopez thrives off of opponents who are stationary and not as defensively sound and versatile as Lomachenko. Those fighters make it easier for him to set the tone. Which is why he will go to 140 where there isn't an opponent with the kind of tools like a Lomachenko to disrupt his style.
                      When has Loma given a rematch after he won ?

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