Has Wilder become the biggest joke in boxing?

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  • Noelanthony
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    #11
    Originally posted by BangEM
    Before the Fury rematch - every outlandish things he said was headline news. But now times have changed and there’s a media blackout on him.

    The guy also looks sad, deflated and lonely these days. And they might need to put him on suicide watch.

    Not even close! The biggest joke in boxing was the 40lbs costume he wore that cost him the WBC belt

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    • REDEEMER
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      Dude come on. Wlad was 42 and just lost and then took some time off.

      Ruiz isn’t better than him all time but he was a better opponent in context. AJ just didn’t prepare properly and got ktfo. That is on him. That

      WTF are you talking about? Where did I downplay him?

      I don’t have wilder ranked ahead of AJ. I have Fury ahead of him. Just like many others.

      I am pro American but that is about when they fight, not where their ranked in the division.

      I know significantly more about the sport than you.
      No he wasn’t just stop . Ha Ruiz was not better then a Klitschko after a loss .no one is going to agree with that besides Wilder fans there’s no comparison to Klitschko in shape and Ruiz in or out of shape .

      You continue to use Ruiz as though he’s an easy win hence claiming no one on his level should win big fights ,you just aren’t smart enough to hide the agenda .


      “At least He didn’t get ktfo by a Ruiz level guy”. Referencing Wilder .

      “Fury didn’t lose to a mid tier Ruiz” Ruiz would be Furys third best win . No he didn’t lose because he has a very thin resume most of it is mid tier guys ,Ruiz wouldn’t be one of them . But you know boxing ?

      No you are not trying to downplay anything ,not at all ? And no you don’t know anything more then I do another crazy claim .
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-08-2021, 04:42 PM.

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      • Floyd is TBE
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        #13
        Why are people so hard on Wilder? He ain't the only guy making outlandish excuses. Loma and Pac are just as pathetic when it comes to taking Ls.

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        • Inspired
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          #14
          Originally posted by BangEM
          Before the Fury rematch - every outlandish things he said was headline news. But now times have changed and there’s a media blackout on him.

          The guy also looks sad, deflated and lonely these days. And they might need to put him on suicide watch.

          the guy was earning $1m for world title defences...and then came the Matchroom offer for Whyte..$5m. he took that offer to showtime and they managed to put up $2m for ortiz.
          each time he has earned more off the back of matchroom's offers to him.
          so he is much richer as a result...

          if there was no aj, hew ould be on $2m a fight. He would take more risks and already have gotten splatterd by derek chisora or someone like that.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
            Why are people so hard on Wilder? He ain't the only guy making outlandish excuses. Loma and Pac are just as pathetic when it comes to taking Ls.
            Yes, Loma and Pac had excuses but not about half a dozen of them for one fight. Pac blamed his legs locking up, he's a 42 year old man...that sounds plausible. It doesn't mean it's any less of a defeat.

            Wilder blamed a costume, spiked water, floppy gloves, egg weights and betrayal by his longtime corner man. I know missing out on a few more. He alleged criminal activity on the part of Breland.

            They all handled their Ls poorly and had excuses but only one went full tin foil hat with his.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #16
              Originally posted by REDEEMER

              No he wasn’t just stop . Ha Ruiz was not better then a Klitschko after a loss .no one is going to agree with that besides Wilder fans there’s no comparison to Klitschko in shape and Ruiz in or out of shape .

              You continue to use Ruiz as though he’s an easy win hence claiming no one on his level should win big fights ,you just aren’t smart enough to hide the agenda .


              “At least He didn’t get ktfo by a Ruiz level guy”. Referencing Wilder .

              “Fury didn’t lose to a mid tier Ruiz” Ruiz would be Furys third best win . No he didn’t lose because he has a very thin resume most of it is mid tier guys ,Ruiz wouldn’t be one of them . But you know boxing ?

              No you are not trying to downplay anything ,not at all ? And no you don’t know anything more then I do another crazy claim .
              42 years old, lost to Fury then took off almost 2 years. Come on dude.

              Idiot that was a joke. Anyone can see that. Geez.

              No Fury didn’t, which justifies his being ranked ahead of AJ. Sorry but an embarrassing loss is used to judge fighters.

              Every point I made is a fact. The difference is how we judge them.

              My disagreeing with you on AJ’s resume is not a valid way to judge knowledge of the sport.

              Clearly I know when to use than and when to use then. You should learn same.
              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-08-2021, 05:16 PM.

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              • BangEM
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                #17
                Originally posted by Inspired


                the guy was earning $1m for world title defences...and then came the Matchroom offer for Whyte..$5m. he took that offer to showtime and they managed to put up $2m for ortiz.
                each time he has earned more off the back of matchroom's offers to him.
                so he is much richer as a result...

                if there was no aj, hew ould be on $2m a fight. He would take more risks and already have gotten splatterd by derek chisora or someone like that.
                Even with all that - I don’t think that man os worth $10m. His career earnings combined should be less than $30m. And when you have the massive number of hands in your pockets like Wilder has had throughout his career because they had to spoon feed him - it’s difficult to have decent money. DiBella, Shelley, Al and his 2 coaches - that’s a lot of money.

                They all benefited from AJ’s star power including Ruiz, Parker, Povetkin, Fury and Whyte. And since AJ lost to Ruiz and his stock has somewhat plummeted due his air of invincibility evaporating - it hasn’t been business as usual for any of them. Hence they stay postponing fights and waiting for AJ to fight before they make their next moves.

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                • Raggamuffin
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BangEM
                  Before the Fury rematch - every outlandish things he said was headline news. But now times have changed and there’s a media blackout on him.

                  The guy also looks sad, deflated and lonely these days. And they might need to put him on suicide watch.
                  So now you’re with Fury? You must’ve fell off of the Joshua bandwagon, lmao…!!!

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                  • BangEM
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                    So now you’re with Fury? You must’ve fell off of the Joshua bandwagon, lmao…!!!


                    Whose man is this?

                    I don’t do bandwagon and I don’t eff with gypo scammers that look like leprechaun.

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #20
                      I've not seen a fighter like wilder before. A guy who lost trying to ruin reputation of his victor and going above and beyond call of duty to do it. Give his superior no respect whatsoever?
                      Wilder should value himself as a fighter, so he can value fury as a fighter, after all of wilder is great, fury must be special to beat him

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