Teofimo Lopez Says "There's NO rematch because had I lost, he would have never given me a rematch."

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  • GhostofDempsey
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    #51
    After Loma had an easier time with a common opponent, Lopez wants no part of any rematch. Look for him to follow Tanks formula of finding shot or over-matched fighters to pad his resume. Mark my words, the first loss this guy suffers will be debilitating. He won't be able to handle it emotionally or mentally. He's another Oliver McCall waiting to happen.

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      #52
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
      After Loma had an easier time with a common opponent, Lopez wants no part of any rematch. Look for him to follow Tanks formula of finding shot or over-matched fighters to pad his resume. Mark my words, the first loss this guy suffers will be debilitating. He won't be able to handle it emotionally or mentally. He's another Oliver McCall waiting to happen.
      Lopez already beats Loma's ass, aint nobody scared of that hype job. Loma just doesn't deserve to handed opportunities like he's some mega star. He's an average fighter that has to earn his shots. It's back of the line.

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      • Rayzah
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        #53
        Let’s hope he beats the Aussie kid cause if not Loma is gonna be in the driver seat again. All these postponements are not a good look and with all this time
        going by the win over Loma is slowly fading into the background. Especially is Loma keep whooping people like he did Nakatani.

        I would watch the rematch for sure.

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        • Cypocryphy
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          #54
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat

          Ok, bro, but I have a couple of things to say.

          First, I'm no longer a Loma hater, and I actually want him to succeed before he retires. Boxing is a brutal sport and Loma's bones are ready for a rest. His last couple of fights had injury controversies. One big fight and he can go out. Enter Davis. I hope it happens. That's a big PPV fight. The one and only for Loma. Loma calls it his mega fight. He sees money.

          Second, Loma and Lopez will NEVER be a PPV worthy fight. It couldn't cut it when it was fresher and more intriguing. If ESPN wouldn't have chipped in, fight wouldn't have happened. Top Rank didn't have the right kinda money and PPV was not an option. They explored the market. It'd have flopped big. ESPN reluctantly bended, due to fan pressure.

          Lopez doesn't even have 50,000 real fans, my generous estimate, and Loma was never as big as his fans think, in the US. Globally, Loma is more known, and even in the US, than Lopez. He's not that big in the US, tho. Lopez's PPV ticket sales are doing so bad, Triller can't even stick to a date, despite their big musical supplemental plans. The answer: Nobody cares about Lopez. Nothing against Loma.

          I maintained Loma-Lopez isn't PPV worthy. Now, it's NOT even a consideration. Arum is too smart for that.

          Conclusion: Move on.
          I agree with a lot of what you say here. Definitely Loma’s fan base is larger across the sea. But at the same time, aside from some heavyweights, that’s true for almost every boxer. Boxing has had its audience dwindle here because the newer generations are being drawn to MMA when they would have been watching boxing. For a lot of MMA fans, they believe boxing sucks. I’ve been watching boxing since I was a little kid, sitting with my grandfather. So I’ve seen the sea change. Plus everything that is a meaningful fight is put behind a PPV shield. And that’s hurting boxing too. But I digress.

          I hear what you are saying, but other networks would pick it up. I think it’s easily a PPV fight. And I wouldn’t mind Loma fighting Tank next or soon. But Tank has turned down that fight for five years and counting. Is that going to change? I don’t know. I do know that the Loma and Lopez fight is becoming more and more intriguing, and I believe there’s unfinished business. I don’t see why we can’t have both a Loma vs Lopez fight, and then a Loma vs Tank fight. And a Lopez vs Haney fight.

          To be honest, I think if Loma and Lopez fight again, it’s going to be a trilogy. Lopez will make sure there’s a rematch clause.

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          • Cypocryphy
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            #55
            Originally posted by revelated

            You can do your own research. There was an article about it on Boxingscene.com right after the fight.
            Okay you lazy bum ;-) I did look and I’ve actually found the opposite of what you are saying. I find articles supporting what I’m saying.

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            • F l i c k e r
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              #56
              Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
              I've always maintained that this fight would NEVER happen. Here is Lopez telling you exactly the same. No need for a rematch since the first fight was neither close nor that exciting, IMO. I personally wouldn't even watch it.

              If Loma fans want this fight out of Loma's pride and redemption, I could care less about that. And, by the way, Arum can't do crap about that.

              I had the fight same as Julie Lederman. Maybe I'd give Loma two rounds max, in retrospect.
              You should watch it.

              Lomachenko outboxed him for a contested 6 rounds. Once Lomachenko decided to actually fight.

              No crying over spilt milk. It's Loma's fault for not doing s.hit for 6 rounds straight and/or going into the ring with a preexisting injury. So, he has to take the L on his chin for being foolish.

              But Lopez would likely get beat in a rematch. Just from the eye test in the first go. You can't get completely boxed up for the entire 2nd half of the fight and not be suspect.

              That's why Lopez won't do a rematch. Not as it stands. Because he doesn't want to risk taking the L that is very feasible.

              But they may come together sooner or later anyways. Nobody is trying to fight each other in the division, so eventually the orgs might force their collision.

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                #57
                Originally posted by F l i c k e r

                You should watch it.

                Lomachenko outboxed him for a contested 6 rounds. Once Lomachenko decided to actually fight.

                No crying over spilt milk. It's Loma's fault for not doing s.hit for 6 rounds straight and/or going into the ring with a preexisting injury. So, he has to take the L on his chin for being foolish.

                But Lopez would likely get beat in a rematch. Just from the eye test in the first go. You can't get completely boxed up for the entire 2nd half of the fight and not be suspect.

                That's why Lopez won't do a rematch. Not as it stands. Because he doesn't want to risk taking the L that is very feasible.

                But they may come together sooner or later anyways. Nobody is trying to fight each other in the division, so eventually the orgs might force their collision.
                I'd say 4 rounds. Loma lost the first 7th plus 12.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                  I agree with a lot of what you say here. Definitely Loma’s fan base is larger across the sea. But at the same time, aside from some heavyweights, that’s true for almost every boxer. Boxing has had its audience dwindle here because the newer generations are being drawn to MMA when they would have been watching boxing. For a lot of MMA fans, they believe boxing sucks. I’ve been watching boxing since I was a little kid, sitting with my grandfather. So I’ve seen the sea change. Plus everything that is a meaningful fight is put behind a PPV shield. And that’s hurting boxing too. But I digress.

                  I hear what you are saying, but other networks would pick it up. I think it’s easily a PPV fight. And I wouldn’t mind Loma fighting Tank next or soon. But Tank has turned down that fight for five years and counting. Is that going to change? I don’t know. I do know that the Loma and Lopez fight is becoming more and more intriguing, and I believe there’s unfinished business. I don’t see why we can’t have both a Loma vs Lopez fight, and then a Loma vs Tank fight. And a Lopez vs Haney fight.

                  To be honest, I think if Loma and Lopez fight again, it’s going to be a trilogy. Lopez will make sure there’s a rematch clause.
                  I can respect your opinion on the PPV thing. I just don't see it that way.
                  Can you source the bold? Because that's a big lie told around here.
                  Not talking about you specifically. If anything, Floyd is the culprit and the bitch.

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                  • F l i c k e r
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

                    I agree with a lot of what you say here. Definitely Loma’s fan base is larger across the sea. But at the same time, aside from some heavyweights, that’s true for almost every boxer. Boxing has had its audience dwindle here because the newer generations are being drawn to MMA when they would have been watching boxing. For a lot of MMA fans, they believe boxing sucks. I’ve been watching boxing since I was a little kid, sitting with my grandfather. So I’ve seen the sea change. Plus everything that is a meaningful fight is put behind a PPV shield. And that’s hurting boxing too. But I digress.

                    I hear what you are saying, but other networks would pick it up. I think it’s easily a PPV fight. And I wouldn’t mind Loma fighting Tank next or soon. But Tank has turned down that fight for five years and counting. Is that going to change? I don’t know. I do know that the Loma and Lopez fight is becoming more and more intriguing, and I believe there’s unfinished business. I don’t see why we can’t have both a Loma vs Lopez fight, and then a Loma vs Tank fight. And a Lopez vs Haney fight.

                    To be honest, I think if Loma and Lopez fight again, it’s going to be a trilogy. Lopez will make sure there’s a rematch clause.
                    I think so as well.

                    It would be great for boxing I feel.

                    When is the last time we had a good boxing rivalry? Pacquiao-Marquez?

                    That's probably the last great one. Everyone else will maybe provide a rematch but that's it, at the most.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Cypocryphy
                      I'll say it right now: Teofimo Lopez is being a little bi†ch by telling lies and making excuses on not giving a rematch to Lomachenko.

                      Here's what he said:


                      This kid is a PUNK. There was no rematch clause in the contract sent to both guys, and no one requested one out of pride. Arum, out of his own mouth, said he doesn't do rematch clauses, leaving it up to the boxers later on. So he sent out contracts that didn't have a rematch clause.

                      Having Lopez presume that Loma wouldn't give him a rematch is ludicrous. Does Lopez have a crystal ball that lets him see into the hearts and minds of others, to see into the future on what someone will or will not do? It's absolutely absurd.

                      He's ducking Loma now after Loma showed Lopez that he was outclassed. We all saw the last half of the fight. We all saw that Lopez couldn't hit the side of a barn with Loma in the ring. And we all saw Lopez's head constantly bouncing off of his back!

                      He want's to fight Taylor. But Taylor doesn't want to fight Lopez. Taylor said he's NOT going to fight Lopez, and Lopez doesn't have any leverage to make the fight. He had leverage to make the fight with Loma. But now with Josh, what does he have? A super belt? Great. Josh doesn't want to beat a 135 pounder. He wants to fight Crawford. He wants to move up.

                      So Teofimo is going to leave the hottest division in boxing to go fight someone that is leaving the 140 pound division. Say what?! He's above fighting Haney. He's above fighting Tank. He's above fighting Garcia. He's above fighting any of the ranked fighters in the most stacked division in boxing.

                      That win over Loma was a fluke! A one-armed Loma with extremely biased/corrupt judging. The fight was a draw. I want this kid to get a beat down now.

                      What does everyone think?
                      Personally, I was more shocked at how classy Teo looked. His inexperience showed the last half (gassed out). I think they should fight again.
                      I think Teo would win though. Younger and still improving and all.

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