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The 1990s was a great era but AJ is way ahead of Lewis in terms of what he’s accomplished in the amount of time he did , Lewis didn’t become a unified champion until about 9 years into his career , Joshua did it in half that time . Wheather who could win against who is debatable,I think AJs size gives Lewis trouble I’d give edge to AJ being a better combination puncher at close range but you could argue either way . I think when AJ walks through Usyk people are going to realize just how difficult he is to get a win off ,let’s not forget Lewis avoided southpaws to .
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AJ should never lose to a guy like that at that point in his career. No excuse is good enough.
Yes, it is different for him. When you’re talked about as the next great hwt and a potential cash cow, the standard you have to meet is high.
Like Lennox and wlad, full respect will come when he wins the big fights. As for now the AJ ko loss is a huge stain on him.
I don’t think that is unfair, biased or Unreasonable.Comment
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Yes, he needs to take that on the chin for being too ****y and thinking the seek and destroy style would be more than enough even when he’s not fully fit. He got away with it against Povetkin. And trusting an oil salesman promoter who’s just in it for financial gains and not his trainer, did him in. At the end of day, it humbled him and forced him to start following his own “stay humble” sermon.
Sometimes when everything comes easy and too fast and you’re on top of the world - you need something to humble you and bring you back down to earth. And that’s basically what Ruiz did. Ruiz is also a damn good boxer with a great chin if you box to his strengths hence I see him beating the likes of Wilder, Joyce and Whyte easily.
Both Lennox and Wlad lost to boxers worse than Ruiz. Lennox got sparked twice and Wlad 3 times. It’s about how you come back from those losses. AJ can make a statement with a win over Usyk pending when Fury finds his balls. A win over Usyk should move AJ ahead of Bowe on the ATG ranking (that’s if he hasn’t already passed Bowe) and cement him as a HoFer.Comment
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You claim to know more about boxing then me but your first point here exposes how little you actually know .
AJ had multiple title defenses early and many top fighters have lost in their 24/26 fights , resumes like Joe Louis , Lewis and Klitschko etc with very easy touches after those losses but you know more then I do ? O.K
And I’m still waiting on what Fury fight shows he is better then AJ ? Because last time I saw Fury fighting a skilled guy he got busted up by AJ former sparring partner Otto Wallin who was a prospect, now reports coming on Anderson pieced him up ,sorry but these things happening doesn’t tell me Fury is better .Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-08-2021, 04:51 PM.Comment
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I can name several fights those guys went life and death with so using that is just silly to prove a fighter is better , Ruiz had a tough fight omg we’ve never seen that in boxing ? And after a weight loss which obviously weakened him where the excuses he was going to be to big for AJ prior to the fight disappeared when he lost every round .
As for Parker I never really ranked him high he was gifted a handful of fights but AJ still won just about every round against him ,who’s done that ? And talking glass jaws you never seen Moorer fight either .Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-08-2021, 04:35 PM.Comment
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You’re not very bright. I gave an opinion.
I didn’t make the statement that no elite fighter ever loses. Nor did I comment about anyone else’s resume not AJ’s outside of that loss. Those losses have no relevance in this thread.
See you’re trying too hard and you’re showing the problems you have.
One problem you have is reading comprehension. You don’t address the points made. The other problem is you think every post is trying to hide some agenda. So you respond to everything in that context.
I don’t care about sparring. Fury is undefeated and AJ has what I consider a very bad loss. Wilder was a top 3 hwt when Fury beat him. Imo he beat him twice.
If you don’t agree, ok. For me losses count, especially “bad” ones.Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-09-2021, 06:12 AM.Comment
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You must have been like two years old during the time period. Frank Bruno won the title from Oliver McCall. Duhhh...nice work with boxing history.
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tell me one good southpaw that Lewis avoided in his career...Lewis resume has everybody that was relevant and dangerous at that time except bowe but it was bowe who refused to fight him so that’s not a knock.
secondly I did say that could change if Joshua deals with usyk and fury but he hasn’t yet so Joshua cannot be classed as better and that’s just common sense.
You know I hold Joshua in high regard but he simply has not beaten a Lennox Lewis standing as of yet.
yes Joshua did do it a lot quicker and was still learning on the job even when he beat klitchko so that’s shows his potential.
if Lewis lands the kind of right hand as he did with ruddock or the combination as he did with golota then it’s curtains for AJ or anybody else..,Lewis was 240-245. 83 inch reach and could box or punch and had stamina
the usyk fight will be the acid test for Joshua because usyk skill level and if he powers past him then he really is the real deal but if he don’t then we have our answer.
as we stand Joshua is not on the level Lewis was
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