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  • BodyBagz
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    #31
    The era of stat padding. Looking over Greb's resume, it's all over the place with guy with less than 10 wins and more than 20 losses. Guys with 100+ wins !!!! Not only was record keeping sketchy AF, but anyone willing to lace them up were considered boxers. The Mob basically told the sport who wins and loses.

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    • E-Thug
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      #32
      Originally posted by LeOoze

      Explain why someone thinking Ali being the goat is ******?
      That guy is a clinical ******, don't bother asking him man. He lives in a delusional fantasy and if you ask him about Mosley abusing PED's, he'll ignore it

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      • i_am_a_champ
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        #33
        Didnt he give Jack Dempsey fits?

        Also Greb was said to be the type to bite chunks out og opponents shoulders

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        • cfang
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          #34
          If Greb was a rubbish as some people say, then everyone from his era has to be rubbish too as greb was clearly the best of his era. He gave the heavier Tunney all he could handle in multiple fights so Tunney would have to be rubbish too, ditto Dempsey, Walker etc.

          His record is unsurpassed in boxing in terms of the amount of fights , wins and the quality of the of those boxers for their time.

          The footage we have of him is irrelevant. He’s not actually fighting and you can’t gauge the strength of his chin, how hard he punched, how brave was he, how much stamina did he have just from that footage.

          He’s the p4p number 1 all time for me based on his record. The man had 300 fights against the best boxers of his day and arguably only Tunney came out on top.

          What would today’s boxers be like if they had to fight every other week, with smaller gloves and less medical presence and general protection. How many times did greb fight injured? Would they survive that? It’s such a different era where boxers fight 2 or 3 times a year. It’s so hard to compare but of his era he’s sensational.

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          • miacoke
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            #35
            Boxers pre 1980s just aren't on the same level athletically as ones in the modern era. Better nutrition, superior coaching, much better technique with boxers these days.

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #36
              Originally posted by miacoke
              Boxers pre 1980s just aren't on the same level athletically as ones in the modern era. Better nutrition, superior coaching, much better technique with boxers these days.
              - -U ain't on the same intellectual level of a gnat. What grade U get put back this year?

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #37
                Originally posted by miacoke
                Boxers pre 1980s just aren't on the same level athletically as ones in the modern era. Better nutrition, superior coaching, much better technique with boxers these days.
                Athleticism is just one tool.

                And technique is NOT better these days. A lot of technique that they had back then has actually been lost. As an example few in the modern era can even use the shoulder roll defense correctly, the ones that excelled at it (Floyd and James Toney) have ties to old school lineage coaches.

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                • miacoke
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                  - -U ain't on the same intellectual level of a gnat. What grade U get put back this year?
                  Truth hurts

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