Comments Thread For: Oscar Valdez Cleared By Presiding Commission to Move Forward With Conceicao

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  • Senor_frogs
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    #41
    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat

    You got my post wrong. Stay with the topic.
    My bad. I read your post wrong. “Isn’t”. Missed read that. But what did you mean by “imagine if this was tank Davis”?

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    • BoxingIsGreat
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      #42
      Originally posted by Senor_frogs

      My bad. I read your post wrong. “Isn’t”. Missed read that. But what did you mean by “imagine if this was tank Davis”?
      I meant Davis has more haters than Valdez on here. I was responding to another guy. I like Valdez. He looked ripped to shreds in that last pic I saw. I don't care much for his next fight but I'll watch it. It should be an easy win.
      Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 09-03-2021, 12:43 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by mexiFistology

        For all those that wanna somehow turn this into a race thing. Mexicans who have tested positive: Canelo Alvarez, Erik Morales, Fernando Vargas, Chavez Jr, Orlando Salido, Luis Nery, John Molina jr , Johny Tapia , Francisco Vargas and now Oscar Valdez that’s 10. Black fighters who have failed drug tests; Jleon Love, James Toney, Lamont Peterson, Big baby Miller, Mickey Bey, Andre Berto , Roy Jones, Shannon Briggs, Shane Mosley, Jean Pascal, Pernell Withaker, Bermane Stiverne, Frankie Randall, Willie Minroe jr, that’s 14! You’ll still beat us at that
        Pernell Whitaker tested positive for *******. Shane Mosley never tested positive but admitted to taking undetectable performance enhancing drugs during the BALCO bullsheeit. And you missed quite a few PED cheats.

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          #44
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          Add this to the things boxing fans can cry about. I have no outrage whatsoever. Let's get it on! Hope the other guy is juiced to the gills too. Maybe he doesn't have enough time to start juicing now. I think they are all on something. I would be if I was a boxer.
          I think depending on the type of substance used, for example the out of competition loophole, the teams should only cite fines. Realistically, Conceicao don’t care. However, the purses would change I imagine, and Arum gives Conceicao a stipend to not make a trolling legal attempt. This is why Top Rank years prior loved its in-house control without VADa existing. The only reason there’s a “problem” is because the WBC-CBP and conflict of interest with Conte. Conte gains a lot by making statements so that he can promote SNAC. Just Like Haney lately, SNAC, do. However Conte didn’t do anything to defend SNAC when Monroe Jr. got caught…

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #45
            Originally posted by mexiFistology

            For all those that wanna somehow turn this into a race thing. Mexicans who have tested positive: Canelo Alvarez, Erik Morales, Fernando Vargas, Chavez Jr, Orlando Salido, Luis Nery, John Molina jr , Johny Tapia , Francisco Vargas and now Oscar Valdez that’s 10. Black fighters who have failed drug tests; Jleon Love, James Toney, Lamont Peterson, Big baby Miller, Mickey Bey, Andre Berto , Roy Jones, Shannon Briggs, Shane Mosley, Jean Pascal, Pernell Withaker, Bermane Stiverne, Frankie Randall, Willie Minroe jr, that’s 14! You’ll still beat us at that
            Music to my ears! Someone send this to IBFP, aka, The Landlord!

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #46
              Originally posted by TheBoxGod
              Good. Its was the correct call.

              What Valdez tested for is not a banned substance for athletes to ingest its only an in-competition bann which means its only not allowed for the actual competition event. (similar to marijuana, caffine in above a certain dosage etc.)

              Vada who are just a facilitator with no research or investigation department are the only organization who has it on there banned list at all times. Wada the standard for all other organization who do have a research department, investigation department, and are responsible for putting vada biggest cheer leader Victor Conte in prison for his PED violations do not have what Valdez tested for in their banned list for out of competition use.

              Vada is a new Organization trying to make a buzz around themselves however only boxing has embraced them because it is spear headed by former ringside physician Margaret Goodman. So how does a new organization makes a buzz? they try to bust more people than other organization, But how do they do that? they add over 70 substances that are not banned by any organization (including wada) for out of competition use into the banned substance list so they can "LOOK" like they are busting more people when infact they are not.

              Had valdez been tested by any other organization in the world he would not have had a failed test.
              It’s unfortunate that many don’t understand or want to acknowledge the circumstances. I said it before many times, Sulaiman and Goodman are partners in crime. They helped setup Canelo too.

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #47
                Originally posted by Pigeons
                So much bad all around. Valdez the cheater. Arum is Lucifer. Top Rank is pathetic. Our sport is corrupt.

                The saddest part? Conceicao will go through with the fight because he needs the money.

                Funny how baseball bans guys 100 games for taking PEDs. A sport where you swing a bat at a ball. In boxing? Where you swing your fists at your opponent's head? Just a slap on the wrist. At worst, a hit to your reputation. You still make money. You still endanger your opponent's life even more so than usual.
                Conceicao will be getting more in the purse because of the incident, I imagine. Conceicao fighting for the belt even if Valdez wouldn’t have been able to make weight. We will be able to determine everything if Valdez looks heavy drained which in his last he looked better than at 126.

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                • Ray*
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                  #48
                  Of course, was never in doubt about that SMH… The corrupt in boxing is astonishing. But nothing shocks me anymore.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by TheBoxGod
                    Good. Its was the correct call.
                    You support corruptible WADA who was caught before? You know nothing but your mouth is full of sht. VADA is the one who fights for clean sport.

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                    • Ajvar
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by budfr

                      It was a diuretic, no biggy. That being said, Blacks cheat all the time not only by using substances but inside the ring by hugging, pushing, and receiving gift decisions based on race. Not even a point deduction for excessive hugging. Floyd Mayweather would heve been disqualified for hugging and would have lost by points in any other country but always fought in the US.
                      That is NOT diuretic (masking agent) that is DOPING for neural system.

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