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[TMLT87]

Bingo…..especially the wrestlers, judokas, and BJJ practitioners. There are MMA fighters who are pro boxers and kick/Thai boxers who have skills with the hands but the grapplers have significantly less skills especially when it comes to combinations and the footwork specific to boxing and we saw that on how the wrestler positioned his feet in the match.

Dont you think its kind of harsh to judge the hands of MMA fighters, when boxers dont even do 90% of the **** MMA fighters do AT ALL? i'm sure Canelos guard passes aint too great either.

How much does it really matter if someones boxing is relatively poor if the rest of their skillset makes it so they dont need to box with you in the first place?

Has a UFC fighter ever come into boxing and beaten a former heavyweight champion?

Its apples to oranges. Boxing has bigger gloves, ref counts and its pretty much tunnel vision compared to MMA in terms of the target area and the weapons used. All of that makes it much harder for someone to land a hail Mary out of nowhere and score an upset. The difference is, a pure boxer cannot recreate what Mercer did at will, its punchers chance which isnt going to work out the vast majority of the time.

Ok simple question - if there was a card where 10 top MMA fighters fought 10 top boxers of comparable size, under a ruleset that allows both sides to use all of their skills (well...MMA rules allow that already)...what do you think the final score would be?

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Dont you think its kind of harsh to judge the hands of MMA fighters, when boxers dont even do 90% of the **** MMA fighters do AT ALL? i'm sure Canelos guard passes aint too great either.

How much does it really matter if someones boxing is relatively poor if the rest of their skillset makes it so they dont need to box with you in the first place?



Its apples to oranges. Boxing has bigger gloves, ref counts and its pretty much tunnel vision compared to MMA in terms of the target area and the weapons used. All of that makes it much harder for someone to land a hail Mary out of nowhere and score an upset. The difference is, a pure boxer cannot recreate what Mercer did at will, its punchers chance which isnt going to work out the vast majority of the time.

Ok simple question - if there was a card where 10 top MMA fighters fought 10 top boxers of comparable size, under a ruleset that allows both sides to use all of their skills (well...MMA rules allow that already)...what do you think the final score would be?

It would just be speculation to guess a final score. How many times are the boxers going to catch their opponents coming in and drop them or follow up with knockout blows?

But I bet the boxers would win more often than the MMAers would on a card held with boxing rules.

[TMLT87]

But I bet the boxers would win more often than the MMAers would on a card held with boxing rules.

You're right, they would, but for the reasons I explained. Punchers chance is a thing in both sports but even more so in MMA. Still, Buster Douglas is not a better fighter than Mike Tyson, Oliver McCall is not a better fighter than Lennox Lewis, and 48 year old Ray Mercer would have gone to the UFC if he could have done that whenever he wanted to.

Okay let me put it another way then, who do you think has a more legitimate claim of being the best fighter in the world at their weight (best as in able to beat anyone else from any other combat sport at their weight in an open rules environment) - elite MMA guys or elite boxers?

[1bad65]

Tell that to Tim Sylvia who got knocked the F out by a fat old Ray Mercer. James Toney is a fat bum and he did not train at all for that, it was a pay day. Standing up he wins that fight easily.

I accept Tim Sylvia got beat by a boxer in MMA. It happens.

Just as boxers have lost to MMA guys under boxing rules. That happens too.

mromano said it best, really.

[ThunderFists]

Jake Paul beats all MMA fighters around that weight. None of them can throw a punch

Masvidal has pretty good hands. I'd say the equivalent of a very good amateur

[TMLT87]

Masvidal has pretty good hands. I'd say the equivalent of a very good amateur

Yep, and he just got KTFO by a wrestler, which just illustrates how the overall MMA ruleset with the smaller gloves, threat of a takedown etc can change things significantly. Mas would light Usman up in pure boxing.

[Elpatron2]

So did he make more in one fight?
than the mma career? real ??

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You're right, they would, but for the reasons I explained. Punchers chance is a thing in both sports but even more so in MMA. Still, Buster Douglas is not a better fighter than Mike Tyson, Oliver McCall is not a better fighter than Lennox Lewis, and 48 year old Ray Mercer would have gone to the UFC if he could have done that whenever he wanted to.

Okay let me put it another way then, who do you think has a more legitimate claim of being the best fighter in the world at their weight (best as in able to beat anyone else from any other combat sport at their weight in an open rules environment) - elite MMA guys or elite boxers?

So you're asking who is the best at beating anyone from any combat sport under MMA rules?

MMA fighters obviously.

But that doesn't necessarily make them the "best fighters." For example, the skill and fight IQ that Canelo has accumulated in his sport far surpasses that of many MMA champions in their sport.

Do UFC fighters even get 40 fights of experience in the UFC? Let alone 50 or almost 60 like Canelo has in boxing?

[War Room]

Jake Paul is exposing the lousy hand skills of UFCers as well as how little Dana White pays them.

I love it.

Me too I love it and I love posting this gif I made at any chance I get to lmao!

[oscar delapolla]

Has a UFC fighter ever come into boxing and beaten a former heavyweight champion?

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