Comments Thread For: Joshua's Promoter: Usyk is Very Tough Fight, But Fury-Wilder Winner is Next Target

[Oldskoolg]

all major fighters from the UK know that in order to establish a real legacy in boxing, they need to fight in the US at some point. Some did so willingly early in their careers such as Lewis and Khan, some did it later on such as Calzaghe, and others did it at different points such as Hamed, Fury, Hatton, etc. I’ve never seen anyone bomb as badly as Joshua did in his one shot. I doubt he’ll ever come back.

Olafemi knows where the money is, and that’s either in the U.K. or Saudi Arabia. He is a non seller on the USA nor does he have tens of thousands of adoring pyssed casuals to show up. The heavyweight division is all but dead in the USA save for wilder and Anderson so unless he’s fighters by those two Olafemi can stay in the eastern hemisphere

[Oldskoolg]

After Fury beats Wilder again, USA will be irrelevant at heavyweight.

You want me to believe AJ, Fury, Joyce, Whyte will have to fight each other in America or what?

No sir. Jarrod Anderson is the future of the heavyweight division. I know you lot back home like to bash the USA but I’m this case it’s premature….and that is assuming fury beats wilder I might add

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Olafemi knows where the money is, and that’s either in the U.K. or Saudi Arabia. He is a non seller on the USA nor does he have tens of thousands of adoring pyssed casuals to show up. The heavyweight division is all but dead in the USA save for wilder and Anderson so unless he’s fighters by those two Olafemi can stay in the eastern hemisphere

AJ sold out MSG .

[REDEEMER]

No sir. Jarrod Anderson is the future of the heavyweight division. I know you lot back home like to bash the USA but I’m this case it’s premature….and that is assuming fury beats wilder I might add

Sonny Conto is more dangerous then Anderson in the U.S and Vlad Sirenko is young powerhouse who will be in the running as well ,Anderson is going to have stiff competition.

[Jab jab boom]

Telling the truth would be a new thing for you. Why don't you explore it some time. Who knows what the possibilities for you might be. Good luck.

Care to point out the lie that I said? Was it me factually stating how nearly every uk fighter who has ever mattered has tried to make a name for themselves in America or was it me mentioning how the one time Joshua tried to come to America, he failed miserably? Please identify the lie.

[Rodtang]

Care to point out the lie that I said? Was it me factually stating how nearly every uk fighter who has ever mattered has tried to make a name for themselves in America or was it me mentioning how the one time Joshua tried to come to America, he failed miserably? Please identify the lie.

You keep going on about AJ won't be back when Hearn has said multiple times that they intend to go back there. Not just to MSG but to larger stadia given time. So that's just one piece of nonsense. You keep prattling on about UK fighters needing to go to America for legacy. That's a lie also because America isn't the powerhouse it once was. The UK has now a major promotional player in world boxing so the cash is here in the UK. And why as I've said before does AJ need the US. You saying he needs to go there is more BS because there are no big fights for him there that he can't have in the UK or anywhere else in the World for that matter. He's a global brand. So he goes to the US to satisfy American fans who criticise him for not going, and if he has success he'll just be criticized anyway. Brits will never get their just due in the state's so really there's no need. Personally I do hope he goes as its worthwhile ticking the box, but he doesn't NEED to go.

[Jab jab boom]

You keep going on about AJ won't be back when Hearn has said multiple times that they intend to go back there. Not just to MSG but to larger stadia given time. So that's just one piece of nonsense. You keep prattling on about UK fighters needing to go to America for legacy. That's a lie also because America isn't the powerhouse it once was. The UK has now a major promotional player in world boxing so the cash is here in the UK. And why as I've said before does AJ need the US. You saying he needs to go there is more BS because there are no big fights for him there that he can't have in the UK or anywhere else in the World for that matter. He's a global brand. So he goes to the US to satisfy American fans who criticise him for not going, and if he has success he'll just be criticized anyway. Brits will never get their just due in the state's so really there's no need. Personally I do hope he goes as its worthwhile ticking the box, but he doesn't NEED to go.

1. I said Joshua likely wouldn’t be coming back. So that’s no a lie, it’s an opinion that’s as of now, has proven to be true. Learn the difference. 2. I stated facts to back my stance on Uk fighters coming to America in the past and currently. So again, no lie. 3. If Uk fighters don’t need to come to American anymore, than what has Fury been doing? Why did Joshua even attempt it? Why are you saying his promotor wants to bring him back? 4. So just because you don’t like the truth and it hurts your delicate feelings, that doesn’t make it a lie. Acting as if that’s the case is what children do. 5. You can say UK fighters don’t get their just due, but that isn’t entirely accurate because Lewis did. Unless you don’t consider him to be from the uk, which is understandable since he mainly used the Uk to just improve his fan backing and Canada was really the country that bred him to be a boxer

[Rodtang]

Lewis is Canadian. Fury is one UK fighter and him going there is his choice and as far as I'm concerned it's no great loss to the UK. He needs the US more because he's not got the same popularity as AJ Or Whyte. And it made sense for him to go as gaining popularity in the state's was the only way his fights against Wilder will sell, cos Wilder sure as hell cant sell them. When AJ went to the US, Wilder was still champ and there was Jarell Miller who was probably the next best. He still didn't need to go but he wanted to. And even now he still does though with Miller gone and Wilder possibly almost gone it won't be the same. It's a box most UK fighters want to tick I'll give you that, but they don't need to go. It would be more beneficial at say, 147 were Americans are the power base, but even then we don't have to prove ourselves there if we're gonna go there and even after success get very little credit. Americans will never praise Brits no matter where they have success because they're just not American's. And that for me removes the pressure to succeed in your country right there. Why bend over backwards to appease fans who only want to ridicule. I do not tar all with the same brush there as some can appreciate UK success but it's a minority.

[DaNeutral.]

AJ sold out MSG .

He will pretend to of not seen that post. Or he will claim it was all Ruiz fans.

[DaNeutral.]

The American Market is so much bigger than the UK market yet considering the size of it there are NO American figgters selling anywhere near as many tickets as Joshua sells in the UK and there are NO American fighters selling anywhere near as many PPV's as Joshua sells in the UK.

So what is so special about America anymore other than historic venues? What Americans are selling out MSG?

Somebody posted its all about the American Ego, the Boxing world did revolve around America at one point, its still got alot to offer but the neither of the 2 biggest stars in the sport are America.

Id love to see AJ in Vegas or back at MSG but it's not really needed to enhance his career when American Boxing is on its arse. He may well go back but the salty fkks on here will take any opportunity to throw a bit of share his way.