If Floyd is rusty, does it diminish a Marquez win?

[-EX-]

and why not?.....jmm fought the the whos who in his div's.....hes a 3 div champ just like jcc....if he beats floyd you could almost consider it as his 4rt div title since floyd was the ww champ and is still undefeated,something jcc had not accomplished.......

Maybe cuz JCC beat better opponents?

[baracuda]

Maybe cuz JCC beat better opponents?

again,thats a matter of opinions....the best in jcc's time=the best in jmms time imo...theres no way of telling that the best in the 80's are better than the best in the 2000's without being biased....

[airjohnston]

If Juan Manuel Marquez beats floyd, he would do something not many people would expect him to and something nobody else has accomplished. If floyd lost to marquez because of rust, that's mayweather's fault, not marquez's...

[-EX-]

again,thats a matter of opinions....the best in jcc's time=the best in jmms time imo...theres no way of telling that the best in the 80's are better than the best in the 2000's without being biased....

Chavez didn't only fight in the 80's...and you base someone's status off the quality of their opponents...and in that category Chavez is higher...

[baracuda]

Chavez didn't only fight in the 80's...and you base someone's status off the quality of their opponents...and in that category Chavez is higher...

yep . but his best was in the late 80's and early 90's....people think he was past it in the hoya fights....again that is a matter of opinion......the way i see it,they both fought the best but if jmm pulls off an upset vs floyd,he overtakes jcc in greatness.....theyre about equal now...imo

[-EX-]

yep . but his best was in the late 80's and early 90's....people think he was past it in the hoya fights....again that is a matter of opinion......the way i see it,they both fought the best but if jmm pulls off an upset vs floyd,he overtakes jcc in greatness.....theyre about equal now...imo

It may be close if Marquez beats Floyd but it aint very close now

What exactly is JMM's best win?

[baracuda]

It may be close if Marquez beats Floyd but it aint very close now

What exactly is JMM's best win?

it a matter of opinions....if you base it on accomp,then its about equal...and if jmm beats floyd he overtakes him..... cas and barrera.....

[-EX-]

it a matter of opinions....if you base it on accomp,then its about equal...and if jmm beats floyd he overtakes him..... cas and barrera.....

You base it on accomplishments AND resume...for instance...Floyd is a 5 division champ. He did his thing from 130-140...after that his resume weakens.

And prime Camacho looks much better than past prime Barrera and 37 year old Casamayor...

And then you can throw Meldrick Taylor in there...

[Driver]

I don't think it does, Floyd always stay's sharp, and Marquez went up quite alot, so to me it doesn't really diminish a W.

[baracuda]

You base it on accomplishments AND resume...for instance...Floyd is a 5 division champ. He did his thing from 130-140...after that his resume weakens.

And prime Camacho looks much better than past prime Barrera and 37 year old Casamayor...

And then you can throw Meldrick Taylor in there...

how else would you rate a fighter but with his accomplishments?.....is camacho>mab?.....