If Floyd is rusty, does it diminish a Marquez win?

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  • VipersThunder
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    #21
    Everyone is always going to have excuses no matter what. I could care less about everyone's bull**** after the fights.

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    • Silencers
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      #22
      6. Will Mayweather be rusty? Since turning pro in 1996, Mayweather has never had more than eight months off between fights -- until now. How will almost 21 months off (his last fight was against Hatton in December of 2007) effect a boxer who relies so much on reflexes and speed?

      Mayweather and his team say the layoff was just what the doctor ordered. He insists that the time away from the ring and training camps gave his chronically sore hands and often-injured shoulders a chance to heal. You know what? I believe him.

      I don’t think Mayweather will show too many signs of inactivity on Sept. 19 because I don’t believe he ever intended to stay retired. (He simply wanted to avoid the pressure of defending his welterweight crown against the Miguel Cotto-Antonio Margarito winner and wait for the right opportunity to come back and make the most money with minimal risk). Thus, I don’t think he ever left the gym during his “retirement” or hiatus or whatever you want to call it (I call it a strategic withdraw), and reports I’ve received from his camp for Marquez support my hunch.

      The trainer of one Mayweather’s current sparring partners recently emailed me with this gym report (sorry for the caps):

      “FLOYD IS MORE THAN READY FOR MARQUEZ. HIS HAND SPEED, REFLEXES, CONDITIONING, TIMING AND RHYTHM ARE ALL THERE.

      "MY FIGHTER TOLD ME THAT LAMONT PETERSON SHOWED UP AT FLOYD’S GYM TWO WEEKS AGO TRYING TO MAKE A NAME FOR HIMSELF. AFTER VERBALLY ABUSING EACH OTHER FOR 30 MINUTES WHILE PUTTING ON THEIR HANDWRAPS, THEY WENT EIGHT 4-MINUTE ROUNDS WITH 15 SECONDS REST, WHICH WAS A SPARRING SESSION WORTH PAYING FOR ACCORDING TO MY FIGHTER. AFTER EIGHT ROUNDS, LAMONT COULDN'T GO NO MORE BECAUSE OF FATIGUE. THAT’S WHEN FLOYD REALLY STARTED TAUNTING HIM SAYING TO HIM ‘ANOTHER ROUND, ANOTHER ROUND!’ WHEN LAMONT REFUSED TO GO ANOTHER ROUND, THAT’S WHEN THE VERBAL ABUSE WENT TO RECORD LEVELS IN THE MAYWEATHER CAMP. NAME CALLING AND VERBAL ABUSE CONTINUED TO BE DIRECTED AT LAMONT FOR ANOTHER 10 MINUTES.”

      Nice to hear that Mayweather hasn’t lost his competitive edge.

      And by the way, Floyd, I know you’re a secretive sort, but there’s no escape from my gym sources. (But hey, at least it’s positive news.)
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      Apparently he isn't rusty at all but I know that being sharp in the gym doesn't mean he's going to be sharp in the fight, then again being sharp in the gym against Lamont Peterson is a pretty good sign.

      Anyways, even if he is rusty during the fight it shouldn't take anything away from JMM. Mayweather took the fight, he knows what he's getting himself into and JMM agreed to fight him almost 2 weight classes above his normal fighting weight so full credit should go to JMM if he wins.

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      • ELPacman
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        #23
        This would be similar to Oscar-Pac. Floyd picking on the smaller fighter. He loses, it's his own fault regardless. He's fighting a smaller man, their suppose to win.

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        • We want Floyd
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          #24
          Floyd being rusty = to being past prime

          So, to all you PAC haters, if Floyd doesn't come in the same form we last saw him. That only means, Juanita beat a fighter that was _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _. You haters should be able to fill-in-the-blanks.

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          • DonTaseMeBrah
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            #25
            Originally posted by The_Executioner
            If Floyd clearly looks rusty and just off on fight night does it take away from Marquez's win?

            I think it should be a two way street on this...if Floyd wins he gets credit but not FULL credit due to him fighting a smaller man at a weight he's never fought at...

            And if Marquez wins he beats a great fighter although the guy hasn't seen any action in 2 years...

            Only way I think I could consider giving full credit to either is if Marquez knocks Floyd out...

            Your thoughts?
            So if marvin hagler beat ray leonard i guess it's a crap win because he was off for what 3 years? But leonard won & he is accorded a great win. Leonard moved up in weight & took on the best middleweight.

            mr.counterfeit cash is undefeated off for 2 yrs, & is making a career featherweight fight at 144lbs who happens to be the best fighter on his resume but we are not gonna give credit to jmm if he wins?

            Only a sick individual would deny jmm a great win if he wins.

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            • wichito_one
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              #26
              Originally posted by The_Executioner
              If Floyd clearly looks rusty and just off on fight night does it take away from Marquez's win?

              I think it should be a two way street on this...if Floyd wins he gets credit but not FULL credit due to him fighting a smaller man at a weight he's never fought at...

              And if Marquez wins he beats a great fighter although the guy hasn't seen any action in 2 years...

              Only way I think I could consider giving full credit to either is if Marquez knocks Floyd out...

              Your thoughts?
              Who ever wins deserves credit. The fight is almost on us they are preparing and come fight night i expect the best from both.

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              • Slotff
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                #27
                Originally posted by The_Executioner
                I think the rust may last a round maybe 2...but after that the fight begins...

                Floyd never shows his true craft in the first round at the elite level...
                Agreed, even when Floyd goes on to dominate, the first round or 2 are generally close in his fights (exception being Gatti, clearly)

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                • Glamour Puss
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                  #28
                  Nice try kid. Already thinking of excuses huh?

                  JMM winning in anyway gives him full credit for the fact that he's making such a leap for this fight.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Jay Em Em
                    Nice try kid. Already thinking of excuses huh?

                    JMM winning in anyway gives him full credit for the fact that he's making such a leap for this fight.
                    The 2 year layoff is a fact....I aint think of it just now...

                    And Marquez is going up as high as he wants...he doesn't have to weigh in at 144...

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                    • baracuda
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bhopreign
                      Let's not get carried away.
                      and why not?.....jmm fought the the whos who in his div's.....hes a 3 div champ just like jcc....if he beats floyd you could almost consider it as his 4rt div title since floyd was the ww champ and is still undefeated,something jcc had not accomplished.......

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