MMA fighters cannot fight with their hands AT ALL!

[ShoulderRoll]

Okay, good thing they have a bunch of other skills they could use to beat a boxer then huh?

Not in a boxing ring apparently.

Unless the boxer is a lazy addict.

[TMLT87]

Not in a boxing ring apparently.

Unless the boxer is a lazy addict.

90+% of MMA techniques are illegal in boxing. Its a hollow victory beating an MMA guy in a boxing match and isnt reflective of who the better fighter is.

[ShoulderRoll]

90+% of MMA techniques are illegal in boxing. Its a hollow victory beating an MMA guy in a boxing match and isnt reflective of who the better fighter is.

An old boxer knocked out a former UFC heavyweight champion in an MMA match. So it seems good hand skills are the technique that carries over the most between the two sports.

[famicommander]

Already forgetting that a 46 year old washed up MMA fighter schooled a former world champion in the boxing ring just a couple months ago?

To be fair, Silva had 2 pro boxing matches prior to that fight and he trained nothing but boxing for over two years after he recovered from his gruesome leg break because he didn't want to spar kickboxing or grappling on the leg.

JCC Jr is still a clown for losing that fight but that was the exception, not the rule, just like Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia in 9 seconds in MMA.

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Yeah I underestimated how hard it is to train that crap out of wrestlers.

I'd like to see Paul with Nate Diaz. He's more of a boxer that happens to do MMA.

They always look awkward in the ring with boxers, they dont line up on the same plane. Connor was constantly ending up behind floyd because they like to circle so much. Woodley did a better job as far as trying to fight in a line like a boxer but his footwork was pretty wack, he looked like a crab walking when he was bent down all low. Jake is so much worse than we thought, his punches telegraphed, gasses just like his brother, power is gone after two rounds ect.

[elfag]

To be fair, Silva had 2 pro boxing matches prior to that fight and he trained nothing but boxing for over two years after he recovered from his gruesome leg break because he didn't want to spar kickboxing or grappling on the leg.

JCC Jr is still a clown for losing that fight but that was the exception, not the rule, just like Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia in 9 seconds in MMA.

silva really shocked me how he performed with Jr. He looked like an actual boxer, he was actually outboxing Jr which blew my mind. Now I know Jr is the king of dissapointment so of course he woudl be the guy to get schooled by a 46 year old MMA fighter but silva still had to be highly skilled to do that.

I didnt know that he had 2 years of pure boxing training so that must be what really helped him break MMA habits.

[TMLT87]

An old boxer knocked out a former UFC heavyweight champion in an MMA match. So it seems good hand skills are the technique that carries over the most between the two sports.

I said it in another thread earlier - MMA fighters lose 100% of the time (okay ignoring JCC jr) in boxing if they fight someone who is at a comparable level in boxing that they are in MMA. While boxers will generally lose quicker and look worse in MMA than the MMA guys in boxing, but maybe 1 time out of 10 they will land something early and get the upset. Thats how you end up with Mercer KO'ing a former UFC champion but also getting stopped in the first round by a D level MMA fighter. Its harder to get upsets in boxing because of the bigger gloves, much narrower skill focus, counts after the knockdown etc.

[famicommander]

silva really shocked me how he performed with Jr. He looked like an actual boxer, he was actually outboxing Jr which blew my mind. Now I know Jr is the king of dissapointment so of course he woudl be the guy to get schooled by a 46 year old MMA fighter but silva still had to be highly skilled to do that.

I didnt know that he had 2 years of pure boxing training so that must be what really helped him break MMA habits.

Yeah, even after he returned to MMA after the injury he was still only doing boxing sparring for a bit. He didn't trust the leg. Then he had pro boxing fights in 1998 and 2005 and he's also been training Muay Thai since he was a teenager. Obviously Muay Thai striking is different from boxing, but a lifetime of Muay Thai definitely gives him an advantage over other novice boxers at least.