Comments Thread For: Ugas On Pacquiao Post-Fight Excuses: I Admire Him And Respect His Opinion

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It’s incredible that you keep avoiding by trying to sidetrack into other questions.
Unlike you, I will answer your question. When Wilder-Fury 1 happened, I bet on Wilder to KO Fury. Didn’t happen. I bet on Wilder again in the rematch. What Fury did was more than enough for me not to care for a 3rd fight.
After Wilder started his crazy talk, I have no interest in it at all but legality won and Fury has no choice but to face Wilder a third time.
Of course I will watch it. And I hope Fury buries that idiot into gate keeper’s purgatory.

My response to you was as detailed as possible.

How many exhibition fights did Joe Louis and Ali have? A bunch.
Floyd is no different from those two. He’s been retired a few years now. He can do whatever he wants.

Mayweather's last sanctioned fight was against Connor McGregor, an MMA fighter who had exactly one pro boxing match. By all rights, that was an exhibition and should have been labeled as such. Yet, Floyd Joy seized the opportunity to have it counted as a real bout that is reflected on his boxing record. And speaking of sidetracking and deflecting, we were discussing a rematch between Pac and Ugas, yet your response was why is Pac ducking a rematch vs Thurman.

[hugh grant]

I think ugas had 6 weeks to train for pac.

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[Oregonian]

Mayweather's last sanctioned fight was against Connor McGregor, an MMA fighter who had exactly one pro boxing match. By all rights, that was an exhibition and should have been labeled as such. Yet, Floyd Joy seized the opportunity to have it counted as a real bout that is reflected on his boxing record. And speaking of sidetracking and deflecting, we were discussing a rematch between Pac and Ugas, yet your response was why is Pac ducking a rematch vs Thurman.

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Once again, I will be thorough and detailed in my response to you.
The context of this discussion is about PAC’s hypocrisy/double standards.
He won a very close fight against Thurman and has rejected the thoughts of a rematch.
He gets beat by Ugas by UD and is chasing a rematch (claiming cramps) just like he did with Floyd (claiming shoulder injury) and just like he did with Marquez after he was KO’d AFTER three controversial decisions.

Lastly, unlike you folks, I agree with you about the Connor fight. Connor had no business in the ring with Floyd.
But your idol was busy negotiating a fight with Connor after criticizing Floyd for fighting him, and all you rabid fans justified the fight by saying Manny “earned” it. Instead of criticizing it the same way you were critical of Floyd.

Manny could fight Jake Paul next month and you guys will find ways to justify it.

One of Manny’s fans on this forum actually justified the Connor fight by saying the difference between Connor vs Floyd was that Connor was inexperienced when he fought Floyd but having fought Floyd he was now experienced and was a solid opponent for PAC. It’s just laughable how you guys think.

[Oregonian]

I think ugas had 6 weeks to train for pac.

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And PAC didn’t have enough time that’s why he lost? Incredible reasoning

[Oregonian]

I just think that this is a bad style match up for Manny Pacquiao at this stage of his career. I know that six or seven years ago he would have performed much better.

He has never challenged a Cuban opponent before in his entire career and it showed. I thought that he had acquitted himself just fine in the early rounds of the fight with his flurries but after that it started to go downhill for him very fast..

He was getting hit with the same looping overhand right; Time and time again and he had no answer for it. He couldn't so much as even move his head either. i just think that it is now time for him to retire and call it a career.

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But if the great Manny had fought a Cuban fighter before, he would have beaten Ugas! Wow!!

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Once again, I will be thorough and detailed in my response to you.
The context of this discussion is about PAC’s hypocrisy/double standards.
He won a very close fight against Thurman and has rejected the thoughts of a rematch.
He gets beat by Ugas by UD and is chasing a rematch (claiming cramps) just like he did with Floyd (claiming shoulder injury) and just like he did with Marquez after he was KO’d AFTER three controversial decisions.

Lastly, unlike you folks, I agree with you about the Connor fight. Connor had no business in the ring with Floyd.
But your idol was busy negotiating a fight with Connor after criticizing Floyd for fighting him, and all you rabid fans justified the fight by saying Manny “earned” it. Instead of criticizing it the same way you were critical of Floyd.

Manny could fight Jake Paul next month and you guys will find ways to justify it.

One of Manny’s fans on this forum actually justified the Connor fight by saying the difference between Connor vs Floyd was that Connor was inexperienced when he fought Floyd but having fought Floyd he was now experienced and was a solid opponent for PAC. It’s just laughable how you guys think.

I'm not sure about all of this "you guys" stuff. You can't find a single post of mine stating any of that dribble about justifying a fight between Manny and Connor. Further, I was appalled by what I saw when Manny fought Floyd and the explanation afterward. My buddies and I paid good money to see that trash. If Pacquaio had an injured shoulder, then he should have postponed the fight. On the other hand, Floyd didn't do much against a supposed one-arm man and refused a rematch. Marquez was bigger in that 4th fight with Pac than I've ever seen him. If he wasn't juicing, I'll eat my hat. After 3 controversial fights, he scored a KO and refused to give Manny a chance to avenge it, though Pac gave him chances. I'm not against a Thurman rematch nor a Ugas rematch. As a poster pointed out a while back, if Manny wants to continue in the sport, then he should fight all comers. I'm a fan of the sport first and of individual fighters second. I didn't watch Pacquiao vs Ugas, because I was expecting him vs Spence and wasn't about to pay $75 for a Ugas fight. But since he lost and claims he could have beaten him if not for leg cramps, I want to see him prove it. Because this, my friend, is called BOXING.

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Ugas is smart. He knows how toxic the Pacquiao fanbase are.

[champion4ever]

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But if the great Manny had fought a Cuban fighter before, he would have beaten Ugas! Wow!!

You my friend are a complete and absolute ****head and asshole! Your mon should have swallowed you. I just thought that you had a right to know. However carry on! If the great Manny had fought a Cuban fighter before then Ugas would have beaten his ass some more; Perhaps even worse.

[Oregonian]

You my friend are a complete and absolute ****head and asshole! Your mon should have swallowed you. I just thought that you had a right to know. However carry on! If the great Manny had fought a Cuban fighter before then Ugas would have beaten his ass some more; Perhaps even worse.

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“You thought I had a right to know”? I’m not sure if your next line after was supposed to be a rebuttal to your own theory.

Perhaps it’s a language barrier. You can type in Tagalog if you want, or try Google translate. It’s really good.

[Oregonian]

I'm not sure about all of this "you guys" stuff. You can't find a single post of mine stating any of that dribble about justifying a fight between Manny and Connor. Further, I was appalled by what I saw when Manny fought Floyd and the explanation afterward. My buddies and I paid good money to see that trash. If Pacquaio had an injured shoulder, then he should have postponed the fight. On the other hand, Floyd didn't do much against a supposed one-arm man and refused a rematch. Marquez was bigger in that 4th fight with Pac than I've ever seen him. If he wasn't juicing, I'll eat my hat. After 3 controversial fights, he scored a KO and refused to give Manny a chance to avenge it, though Pac gave him chances. I'm not against a Thurman rematch nor a Ugas rematch. As a poster pointed out a while back, if Manny wants to continue in the sport, then he should fight all comers. I'm a fan of the sport first and of individual fighters second. I didn't watch Pacquiao vs Ugas, because I was expecting him vs Spence and wasn't about to pay $75 for a Ugas fight. But since he lost and claims he could have beaten him if not for leg cramps, I want to see him prove it. Because this, my friend, is called BOXING.

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How many rematches is Manny going to have? A loss is a loss. Accept it and move on.
Floyd beat Manny, period. No rematch was warranted. On the other hand, Maidana and Castillo fights were close hence the rematches. There were no excuses from Floyd for his performance, he rematches them and beat them. Period.