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  • #41
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

    To try and avenge a loss
    So Thurman shouldn't get to avenge his loss?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      So Thurman shouldn't get to avenge his loss?
      If you want him to or not if you don’t want him too. The is isn’t something I care enough about to argue back and forth about it. It’s just not that crucial. I want to see a rematch of this fight, I don’t care if Thurman wants or gets a rematch

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

        If you want him to or not if you don’t want him too. The is isn’t something I care enough about to argue back and forth about it. It’s just not that crucial. I want to see a rematch of this fight, I don’t care if Thurman wants or gets a rematch
        Understood. I just wanna be fair. Porter did not give Ugas a rematch. Manny did not give Thurman a rematch. Many fighters "deserve" rematches, but they don't always get them.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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          I’ll give you one thing - you write really well.

          That said, that was an excuse no matter how you say it. Think of what is being implied and the opposite of that excuse … “If it wasn’t for the cramps I’d have beaten Ugas”

          Look at the other excuse he made after losing to Floyd - “I couldn’t throw my punches well because I injured my hand” … think about what’s at the opposite end of this nonsense - he is categorically that with a good shoulder he would have beaten Floyd.

          Again, David Haye after getting beat by Wladimir removed his shoe to show us his broken toe and said he couldn’t move. If both of them aren’t making excuses, why not take their losses and accept they lost?
          To give it context, every PAC loss is given an excuse by his delusional fans.
          The Marquez KO was a “lucky” punch. A “lucky” punch in boxing! That’s laughable. And when they accept it, they retort, “but Marquez was scared of a rematch”
          The Morales loss is defended by “but PAC destroyed him in the rematch”

          It’s just laughable. There is zero accountability with his deranged fans. It’s like arguing with a woman. Zero accountability for their guy.
          First, thank you for the compliment about my writing; you are kind.

          Second, I agree that with Mayweather it was an outright excuse -- whether true or not, he was better off just taking the L with more grace. I genuinely don't see it quite the same with Ugas.

          These were his words:

          "I’m not saying this is my excuse, but both of my legs were cramping. That’s why I could not move around. In the early days (of my career), I could easily move and outbox him. But this time around, it was like my two legs were tight and hurting me in the second round until the 12th round.

          My mind and my heart were 100%, but my legs were cramping."

          I'm not putting words into his mouth -- the man himself was aware there was a danger it could be seen as an excuse rather than an explanation of what was going on and is quick to point out he is talking around the subject of how and why he lost, which is after all the purpose of a post-fight press conference. He is suggesting he could have beaten Ugas when he was younger and his leg would allow him to move more, but the pistons were not firing this time around. There is only one real thing he is saying here: I'm too old. He was not saying on another night I wouldn't have these cramps and I'd have beaten him, he is saying I'd have had to be younger to beat him. This is fair enough.
          Oregonian Oregonian likes this.

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