Is Keith Thurman overrated?

[billeau2]

You are overrated by yourself you little mong. I hope you done your homework or I will be telling your mummy you playing on your Internet before you don't your maths and English.

[billeau2]

He legitly ducked Margarito and Thurman two guys Manny handled that's gotta sting.

IMO Floyd managed his career in a manner where he fought guys at a time when it was advantageous to him...Im being diplomatic here. With that said? There was no way it made sense for Floyd to fight either of these guys. Margarito was talked up because he was tough and bruising. But he was always beatable and there was never any reason to assume Floyd would have a problem with him, even more so for Thurman.

[Larry the boss]

Manny fought Ugas coming off of a 2 year layoff and ....thurman fought Manny 2 years ago while he himself was coming off of injury and a 2 year lay off

[djtmal]

IMO Floyd managed his career in a manner where he fought guys at a time when it was advantageous to him...Im being diplomatic here. With that said? There was no way it made sense for Floyd to fight either of these guys. Margarito was talked up because he was tough and bruising. But he was always beatable and there was never any reason to assume Floyd would have a problem with him, even more so for Thurman.

.....it didn't make sense for Floyd to fight Margarito? why? he was a ww...

so why didn't he fight margarito, get him out the way and on to the next guy if Margarito was that easy of a fight since when did Floyd turn down easy fights.

he already had the fight lined up and backed out to fight who carlos baldymir for the same 8 million he was gonna get for margarito...the actual fight was Floyd's worst absolute stinker....

[billeau2]

.....it didn't make sense for Floyd to fight Margarito? why? he was a ww...

so why didn't he fight margarito, get him out the way and on to the next guy if Margarito was that easy of a fight since when did Floyd turn down easy fights.

he already had the fight lined up and backed out to fight who carlos baldymir for the same 8 million he was gonna get for margarito...the actual fight was Floyd's worst absolute stinker....

Margarito is not an easy fight for anyone, but he was never that good. Gatti was a draw. Didn't Baldymir have a belt?

[djtmal]

Margarito is not an easy fight for anyone, but he was never that good. Gatti was a draw. Didn't Baldymir have a belt?

I am reading excuses.

Margarito isn't he the guy who handed Cotto his first loss I mean you at least have to be able to throw a punch to beat a top fighter like Cotto.

Again, if he wasn't that good why go through the motions to negotiate a fight then back out. Margarito had a belt he was a slow come forward guy from Mexico with a country behind him didn't Floyd use that to justify fighting a lightweight Mexican named Marquez.

[KillaMane26]

You have to be more specific....

Prime Thurman or Thurman now?

Prime Thurman slightly but he always found a way to win which goes a long way being a championship boxer.

Thurman now? No...coming off a long layoff Manny didn't easily beat him .. that's nonsense.... It was a split decision he could have easily got the w without that knockdown or draw. ( Still had him losing although but no robbery if it went other way)

So I guess overall he always been slightly overated.

[billeau2]

I am reading excuses.

Margarito isn't he the guy who handed Cotto his first loss I mean you at least have to be able to throw a punch to beat a top fighter like Cotto.

Again, if he wasn't that good why go through the motions to negotiate a fight then back out. Margarito had a belt he was a slow come forward guy from Mexico with a country behind him didn't Floyd use that to justify fighting a lightweight Mexican named Marquez.

That loss to Cotto was very controversial. I do think Floyd considered his competition carefully. No argument there... and hell yeah I think he made sure he fought Marquez at the right weight, and time. I also am not saying Floyd didn't perhaps think about the Margarito fight and avoid it. I just think that most people would accept that given their relative positions regarding achievements, place in division, etc, Floyd did not have to explain why he would not take a fight with Margarito.

Look at Lewis when he "avoided" his mandatory with Ruiz to fight Grant. Some people will say that "well Ruiz was his mandatory and Lewis ducked him" but that makes little sense given that Ruiz was hardly a threat to Lewis while Grant was perceived as a real threat (at the time).

Margarito had not really beat anyone much of any substance up to that point. He was considered tough and strong, but not a real threat. In a way we could say the same thing about Paul Williams. Williams was even a bigger threat because of his reach.

[War Room]

It was the same Manny. Started hot and faded late. I told you idiots for months "he's 42" but yall insisted he was still great... NO excuses now..

Same Manny but 2 years later and 2 years off sure. You told me what? You're the idiot, I don't even know who you are.

[paulf]

Thurman is not rated highly. Thurman is a well known, charismatic ex-champion.

Big difference.

The Pacquiao/Klitschko/Mayweather era has fans thinking that every guy should have a prime that lasts 10 years or else they're a fraud.

Thurman was an A+, topshelf boxer during his prime, but that Thurman is long gone.