Is Keith Thurman overrated?

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  • Mike D
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    #11
    I don't think Manny beat Keith easily at all. To me the only thing that really separated the two in that fight was the early knockdown and the late body shot that hurt Thurman. Other than it was Manny owning the first half of the fight, and Keith owning the second half. And Keith was putting it on Manny in the 2nd half of the fight. He did real damage on Manny in the 2nd half of that fight, and really just dominating that portion of the fight (again, aside from that big body shot from Manny).

    Also, the Manny that Keith fought was 25 months younger. That can't be emphasized enough. I am not discounting what Ugas did at all -- he was fabulous and executed a near flawless game plan of beating Manny Pacquiao. But those 25 months of complete inactivity, at that age, are huge and can't be discounted when it comes to talking about the version that Keith Thurman got in the ring.

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    • BangEM
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      #12
      Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
      I always thought he was overrated based on his boxing style. He reminds me of a poor man’s David Haye with that ambush style.

      Thurman is a cornball
      This!

      Never really got the hype.

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      • GrandpaBernard
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        #13
        No one sees Thurman as the best in his division

        so no Thurman isn’t overrated

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          #14
          To me someone like Terence is overrated

          he hasn’t proven a lot yet but is highly regarded cuz u know eye test

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          • BangEM
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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            No.

            It’s impossible to have an honest conversation about him post Manny because if you point out the truth- he barely beat lopez, his only fight in almost 2 years before Manny-the dipsh-t imbecile f-ckboy slurper Manny stans jump in and claim you’re hating or trying to discredit the win.

            Those are the same “fans” that elevate him because he didn’t fight Floyd and fought Manny.

            He’s a good but not great boxer. Definitely a quality win for Manny.
            If you think he’s “good”, how would you rate Bud and Spence? Very good?

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            • BangEM
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              #16
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
              No one sees Thurman as the best in his division

              so no Thurman isn’t overrated
              But people were ranking him on the same level as Bud and Spence when he’s a notch below.

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                #17
                Definitely overrated, his biggest win was Porter, he beat a Porter that moved up from 140, who beat no one of note at 147 before their fight, the fact that belts were on the line made his resume overrated, he sat on those two wins and refused to fight Spence, injuries didn’t help but he didn’t look good when he fought Lopez and then lost to a 40 year old Pac after so much talk.

                For me his career has been disappointing because he looked like someone who had potential to be a 2 weight champ etc, I mean he berate Terence Crawford but this is his THIRD weight class and his resume isn’t even far off Keefs.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BangEM

                  But people were ranking him on the same level as Bud and Spence when he’s a notch below.
                  How is he a notch below Bud when his wins over Garcia, Porter are better than any of Bud’s 147 wins?

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                  • BangEM
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LeOoze

                    How is he a notch below Bud when his wins over Garcia, Porter are better than any of Bud’s 147 wins?
                    Eye test. And why do you think Porter and better than any of Bud’s opponents? Who did they beat?

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                      #20
                      To put it simply, he’s a good fighter but not a great fighter. His resume is respectable but nothing special, Porter was a very good win, Garcia was a good win too, aside from that it’s largely filled with guys who were past their best like Guerrero, Collazo, Diaz, Zaveck etc.

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