Ugas face after fight. Spence was lucky coz he would have been blind

[SplitSecond]

Because Ugas is average at best.

The only reason Ugas had any chance at all was if a Pacquaio was totally finished which now evidently after last night is the case. Without that fact, Ugas has no chance against Pacquaio.

If Spence was in there against that version of Pacquaio with no movement, no timing, and barely any snap on his punches he’d have been killed.

Clear as day.

You’re completely wrong. Like I said going into this fight, Pacquiao was ***ed because he spent 2 years out with no fighting, no sparring, he saw no orthodox man accross him for 2 years, spent 3 months of dreaming, pissing and ****ting drill movements for a southpaw and 10 days to change the mannerisms and habits back to an orthodox. Pacquiao wasn’t too old to beat Ugas, his style was completely botched and confused, just look at the fight, he was moving to Ugas’ left (Pacquiao’s right) all night long, when has Pacquiao ever moved to an orthodox fighter’s left? He like most people that know how to fight the opposite stance circle inside, otherwise he’s competing with Ugas’ length.

Who does Pacquiao move to his right against? Southpaws, always southpaws, never been orthodox, until this fight, where he just put himself in the awkward position of having to go straight through Ugas’ jab.

Pacquiao’s style vs orthodox has always been to circle inside of them to mix up a step outside of the right hand and counter or shoot a shot inside the right hand. You’re not in a good position for either if you’re circling to the outside. That’s how Rigondeaux fights, that’s how Mayweather eventually started to fight southpaws, that’s how Lomachenko fights, that’s how you fight the opposite stance.

[IronDanHamza]

You’re completely wrong. Like I said going into this fight, Pacquiao was ***ed because he spent 2 years out with no fighting, no sparring, he saw no orthodox man accross him for 2 years, spent 3 months of dreaming, pissing and ****ting drill movements for a southpaw and 10 days to change the mannerisms and habits back to an orthodox. Pacquiao wasn’t too old to beat Ugas, his style was completely botched and confused, just look at the fight, he was moving to Ugas’ left (Pacquiao’s right) all night long, when has Pacquiao ever moved to an orthodox fighter’s left? He like most people that know how to fight the opposite stance circle inside, otherwise he’s competing with Ugas’ length.

Who does Pacquiao move to his right against? Southpaws, always southpaws, never been orthodox, until this fight, where he just put himself in the awkward position of having to go straight through Ugas’ jab.

Pacquiao’s style vs orthodox has always been to circle inside of them to mix up a step outside of the right hand and counter or shoot a shot inside the right hand. You’re not in a good position for either if you’re circling to the outside. That’s how Rigondeaux fights, that’s how Mayweather eventually started to fight southpaws, that’s how Lomachenko fights, that’s how you fight the opposite stance.

Pacquaio was ***ed because he’s done. He’s finished.

You can overrate Ugas who is a dead average fighter all you want it it makes you feel better.

Any elite WW such as Spence steps on Pacquaio like a bug at this point.

[SplitSecond]

Pacquaio was ***ed because he’s done. He’s finished.

You can overrate Ugas who is a dead average fighter all you want it it makes you feel better.

Any elite WW such as Spence steps on Pacquaio like a bug at this point.

Way to not read or respond to anything and just straw man.

[IronDanHamza]

Way to not read or respond to anything and just straw man.

Because it’s irrelevant. You’re delving into stylistic reasons as to why Pacquaio lost when the reality is he lost because he’s done.

A fighter of Ugas’ calibur has no business winning rounds off Pacquaio let alone winning fights. He can’t move his feet, he can barely move his head, his timing is totally gone, his punches don’t have pop on them, it’s all the tell tale signs of a fighter who is finished. There’s no explanation needed for why he looked like he did.

Ugas is tailor made for Pacquaio.

You’re defensively trying to act as if this version of Pacquaio stands a chance against Spence when the reality is he gets splattered in brutal fashion.

[SplitSecond]

Because it’s irrelevant. You’re delving into stylistic reasons as to why Pacquaio lost when the reality is he lost because he’s done.

A fighter of Ugas’ calibur has no business winning rounds off Pacquaio let alone winning fights. He can’t move his feet, he can barely move his head, his timing is totally gone, his punches don’t have pop on them, it’s all the tell tale signs of a fighter who is finished. There’s no explanation needed for why he looked like he did.

Ugas is tailor made for Pacquaio.

You’re defensively trying to act as if this version of Pacquaio stands a chance against Spence when the reality is he gets splattered in brutal fashion.

Most of those issues you just mentioned was due to moving in the wrong direction. He was circling inside just in his last fight vs Thurman. It makes little sense to circle outside against a longer fighter unless you’re looking for his ribs. Physically Pacquiao still looked good if not a little heavy of foot. Regarding Spence vs Pacquiao, you need to stop projecting your opinion like it’s fact or reality. The fight didn’t happen and Ugas and Spence fight nothing alike. But you can opine on why you think Pacquiao was moving to Ugas’ left.

[WholeSoul75]

You’re completely wrong. Like I said going into this fight, Pacquiao was ***ed because he spent 2 years out with no fighting, no sparring, he saw no orthodox man accross him for 2 years, spent 3 months of dreaming, pissing and ****ting drill movements for a southpaw and 10 days to change the mannerisms and habits back to an orthodox. Pacquiao wasn’t too old to beat Ugas, his style was completely botched and confused, just look at the fight, he was moving to Ugas’ left (Pacquiao’s right) all night long, when has Pacquiao ever moved to an orthodox fighter’s left? He like most people that know how to fight the opposite stance circle inside, otherwise he’s competing with Ugas’ length.

Who does Pacquiao move to his right against? Southpaws, always southpaws, never been orthodox, until this fight, where he just put himself in the awkward position of having to go straight through Ugas’ jab.

Pacquiao’s style vs orthodox has always been to circle inside of them to mix up a step outside of the right hand and counter or shoot a shot inside the right hand. You’re not in a good position for either if you’re circling to the outside. That’s how Rigondeaux fights, that’s how Mayweather eventually started to fight southpaws, that’s how Lomachenko fights, that’s how you fight the opposite stance.

Sad to see pac was in a lost of words trying to explain this after the fight.

[IronDanHamza]

Most of those issues you just mentioned was due to moving in the wrong direction. He was circling inside just in his last fight vs Thurman. It makes little sense to circle outside against a longer fighter unless you’re looking for his ribs. Physically Pacquiao still looked good if not a little heavy of foot. Regarding Spence vs Pacquiao, you need to stop projecting your opinion like it’s fact or reality. The fight didn’t happen and Ugas and Spence fight nothing alike. But you can opine on why you think Pacquiao was moving to Ugas’ left.

Oh yeah buddy, Pacquaio having no legs, head movement or timing was down to him moving the wrong direction He’s only a 20+ year pro, he just moved the wrong way

The guy’s done, you can stick a fork in him. Thurman was over 2 years ago, likely his last hurrah and the little he had left was used there. You can clutch as hard as you want, try and put it down to tactical issues, cope with it however you want.

Yes the fight didn’t happen, it now doesn’t need to happen thankfully, for Pacquaio’s health. No one of sound mind wants to see Pacquaio’s corpse in there with anyone elite much less someone like Spence who will seriously hurt him at this point.

[SplitSecond]

Pacquiao did not look bad physically, trigger and counter speed was fine. Ugas was easily able to get his head to Pacquiao’s chest when he ducked because Pacquiao consistently moved to Ugas’ left, reason Pacquiao fell over in rd1, it also helped Ugas mitigate/avoid most of Pacquiao’s combo by getting inside them, and it lined up his jab for him.

People don’t do breakdowns anymore here do they. Just casual talk “he’ll crush him like a bug” “splattered in brutal fashion”. Those are good for youtube thumbnails.

[SplitSecond]

Oh yeah buddy, Pacquaio having no legs, head movement or timing was down to him moving the wrong direction He’s only a 20+ year pro, he just moved the wrong way

The guy’s done, you can stick a fork in him. Thurman was over 2 years ago, likely his last hurrah and the little he had left was used there. You can clutch as hard as you want, try and put it down to tactical issues, cope with it however you want.

Yes the fight didn’t happen, it now doesn’t need to happen thankfully, for Pacquaio’s health. No one of sound mind wants to see Pacquaio’s corpse in there with anyone elite much less someone like Spence who will seriously hurt him at this point.

I could explain it to you, but you don’t want to hear it. We’ll leave it at that.

[Dobyzhee]

Ugas didn’t look touched up to me after the fight.

they got really good photoshop experts in the Philippines these days.

remember, the swollen bicep photos from Ugas? You gotta really ****** to actually believe those as well..