Can we agree that Floyd Mayweather is scared of Cotto?

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  • dondi330
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    #101
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    cotto ducked floyd at 140 lbs. everyone knows this.

    arum would not let floyd ruin cotto
    Everyone don't know this..lol
    We all know that Floyd is in charge of his moves and destiny while Cotto relies on Arum. Arum is about Money just like Floyd.
    So if Floyd wanted to fight , he could have made it happen.
    Im a fan of Cotto and Floyd but Im a realist too...IMO I believe in 2005 Cotto wasnt even ready for Floyd at 140, but I wouldn't say he ducked him because
    *see above.

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      #102
      Originally posted by dondi330
      Everyone don't know this..lol
      We all know that Floyd is in charge of his moves and destiny while Cotto relies on Arum. Arum is about Money just like Floyd.
      So if Floyd wanted to fight , he could have made it happen.
      Im a fan of Cotto and Floyd but Im a realist too...IMO I believe in 2005 Cotto wasnt even ready for Floyd at 140, but I wouldn't say he ducked him because
      *see above.
      He might not have known but Evangelista and Arum saw first hand what Floyd was capable of and decided against it. He was protected.

      And use your sense: no fighter would turn down 20 mill to fight a HOF'r for a belt in a new division like FLoyd did with DLH. (Margarito called out DLH after the Cotto fight, yet gets no criticism for it.) The Floyd fought popular undefeated top10 p4p Hatton. So no get this nonsense that he's not making it happen out of your head. Cotto wouldn't draw anywhere near what those two did. Cotto also is also an easy fight for Floyd

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      • Pullcounter
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        #103
        Originally posted by dondi330
        Everyone don't know this..lol
        We all know that Floyd is in charge of his moves and destiny while Cotto relies on Arum. Arum is about Money just like Floyd.
        So if Floyd wanted to fight , he could have made it happen.
        Im a fan of Cotto and Floyd but Im a realist too...IMO I believe in 2005 Cotto wasnt even ready for Floyd at 140, but I wouldn't say he ducked him because
        *see above.
        exactly, so even if floyd wanted the fight, arum and evangelista would prevent it from happening, hence ducking.

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        • dondi330
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          #104
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          exactly, so even if floyd wanted the fight, arum and evangelista would prevent it from happening, hence ducking.
          Do you believe your ASSUMPTION?
          You cannot base a debate on speculation or assumptions. I will not even try to go that route as easy as it is. Just the facts please.

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            #105
            Regardless of who Mayweather didn't fight at 147, I think Cotto would be the easiest fight if you want to include Williams, Mosley, Margarito, and Clottey in the picture. I even think JMM will give Mayweather a tougher fight than Cotto would. I even think JMM would beat Cotto in a head-to-head match up. Cotto only looks good against guys like Jennings and Gomez. But when matched up against elite fighters he crumbles and tries to make it to the finish line because his defense and stamina is C class.

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              #106
              Originally posted by -GR -
              He might not have known but Evangelista and Arum saw first hand what Floyd was capable of and decided against it. He was protected.

              And use your sense: no fighter would turn down 20 mill to fight a HOF'r for a belt in a new division like FLoyd did with DLH. (Margarito called out DLH after the Cotto fight, yet gets no criticism for it.) The Floyd fought popular undefeated top10 p4p Hatton. So no get this nonsense that he's not making it happen out of your head. Cotto wouldn't draw anywhere near what those two did. Cotto also is also an easy fight for Floyd
              Where do you get your "facts"?
              Im a bit confused at your reasoning (no disrespect) I didnt say Floyd was afraid, nor did I say Cotto was. Floyd fought very good comp. But Fact is Floyd had the ability to make the fight by offering the right amount of money(because he calls his own shots) and thats a fact. While if your SPECULATION is true and thats a big if with no proof, then Cotto will have fought whoever Arum and or Evangelista put in front of him...as usual.

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                #107
                Originally posted by dondi330
                Do you believe your ASSUMPTION?
                You cannot base a debate on speculation or assumptions. I will not even try to go that route as easy as it is. Just the facts please.
                you yourself said cotto was green. so why would arum and evangelista put a green cotto in front of floyd? like i said. duck.

                but that's not to say floyd doesn't need to fight cotto at WW.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by dondi330
                  Where do you get your "facts"?
                  Im a bit confused at your reasoning (no disrespect) I didnt say Floyd was afraid, nor did I say Cotto was. Floyd fought very good comp. But Fact is Floyd had the ability to make the fight by offering the right amount of money(because he calls his own shots) and thats a fact.
                  c'mon, no amount of money was going to get floyd a fight against cotto. you know this.

                  While if your SPECULATION is true and thats a big if with no proof, then Cotto will have fought whoever Arum and or Evangelista put in front of him...as usual.
                  false. arum isn't even willing to put JML in front of caballero. c'mon man.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    you yourself said cotto was green. so why would arum and evangelista put a green cotto in front of floyd? like i said. duck.

                    but that's not to say floyd doesn't need to fight cotto at WW.
                    Your not making sense ....Gamboa is not "ducking", Vasquez, Marquez, or J M Lopez. He just is not ready.
                    If a fighter is "green" it doesnt make it a duck

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                    • dondi330
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      c'mon, no amount of money was going to get floyd a fight against cotto. you know this.


                      false. arum isn't even willing to put JML in front of caballero. c'mon man.
                      Let me put this as basic as I can.
                      Floyd controls his own destiny (known)
                      Cotto and JML listen to their guides (known)
                      Cotto has had some very good and stiff competition and no one complained about that but Floyd controls his destiny so that why fans put so much pressure on him about his comp or ducking because they all know he can make it happen or could have.

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