Wilders Wins Over Ortiz ,Where Does It Place In a Historical view ?

[The Big Dunn]

I bet the Ortiz that wilder beat would’ve beaten the Ruiz that knocked AJ the f-ck out.

[ShaneMosleySr]

I don’t know how to rank a win.

There’s a lot of wins out there.

Its a good win.

Luis Ortiz will probably end up as this generation’s Andrew Golata. Incredibly talented, definitely talented enough to be a champion… but it didn’t happen and there aren’t a lot of big wins on the resume.

Golata is a good win on anyone’s resume. So is Ortiz.

[Amir Imam]

Wilder defeated an old man who was supposed to be replaced by Martin what are you on about ? The forum knows Ortiz has health issues is that what you are giving Wilder credit for ?

“What are you on about” . You know what I’m talking about.

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Ortiz was juiced to the gills and still lost.
You're a Fury fan so of course you ignore drug cheats. So if Wilder doesn’t have any good wins that means Fury only good win is what? An old Klitschko and he tested positive shortly before that fight and should not have even been allowed to fight

[REDEEMER]

I bet the Ortiz that wilder beat would’ve beaten the Ruiz that knocked AJ the f-ck out.

You can say that about most top ten guys if they don’t overlook Ruiz . Ortiz however has not shown to defeat anyone of worth after 2015 so yea Ortiz probably does if he’s able to take his medicine.

[Amir Imam]

The forum knows Ortiz has health issues is that what you are giving Wilder credit for ?

The forum also knows Klitschko has serious diabetic health issues. So the win over an old over the hill Klitschko shouldn’t count for Fury. So basically Fury only good win is against an old ill Klitschko.

Shortly after the fight Klitschko was rushed into hospital. An examination showed Klitschko's blood sugar level almost two times higher than the permissible norm. According to members of Klitschko's team, the doctor told them that Klitschko had been "inches away" from falling into a diabetic coma, and that with blood sugar level that high, Klitschko would've been incapable of handling a single proper training session. After returning from the examination to the hotel, he fell ill with nausea, followed by physical weakness



Are there any documented issues like this from Ortiz?

[Stuart Chandler]

“What are you on about” . You know what I’m talking about.

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Ortiz was juiced to the gills and still lost.
You're a Fury fan so of course you ignore drug cheats. So if Wilder doesn’t have any good wins that means Fury only good win is what? An old Klitschko and he tested positive shortly before that fight and should not have even been allowed to fight

Yes and the fight was postponed because of positive test he was not allowed to take that when it was rescheduled,you did nothing but post why the fight was postponed. If he was healthy why did Martin ready to step in ?

[Stuart Chandler]

The forum also knows Klitschko has serious diabetic health issues. So the win over an old over the hill Klitschko shouldn’t count for Fury. So basically Fury only good win is against an old ill Klitschko.

Shortly after the fight Klitschko was rushed into hospital. An examination showed Klitschko's blood sugar level almost two times higher than the permissible norm. According to members of Klitschko's team, the doctor told them that Klitschko had been "inches away" from falling into a diabetic coma, and that with blood sugar level that high, Klitschko would've been incapable of handling a single proper training session. After returning from the examination to the hotel, he fell ill with nausea, followed by physical weakness



Are there any documented issues like this from Ortiz?

That was a hypoglycemia issue in 2000”s .

[REDEEMER]

I don’t know how to rank a win.

There’s a lot of wins out there.

Its a good win.

Luis Ortiz will probably end up as this generation’s Andrew Golata. Incredibly talented, definitely talented enough to be a champion… but it didn’t happen and there aren’t a lot of big wins on the resume.

Golata is a good win on anyone’s resume. So is Ortiz.

Golota fought Lewis , Bowe and Tyson . Ortiz only fought one thinned out resume champion. Ortiz hasn’t fought top guys to say he’s a Golota ,anyone can do that watching on the sidelines .

[ShaneMosleySr]

There were way more top fighters in that era and they all wanted to fight each other.

Its not comparable to today. I only meant the comparison in terms of similar skill level and ranking in the heavyweight division.

Golota also fought Chris Byrd, John Ruiz, Lamon Brewster and Tim Witherspoon.

Thats 7!former world champions on his resume.

No heavyweight today is going to ever have 7 former world champions on their resume.

Golota fought Lewis , Bowe and Tyson . Ortiz only fought one thinned out resume champion. Ortiz hasn’t fought top guys to say he’s a Golota ,anyone can do that watching on the sidelines .

[El_Mero]

It doesnt. Ortiz hasnt beaten anybody of note.