Wilders Wins Over Ortiz ,Where Does It Place In a Historical view ?

[Stuart Chandler]

This is the type of question you ask when someone career is over. Luis Ortiz hasn’t quit fighting so we can’t answer that question.

Ortiz was robbed and as the thread starter pointed out wasn’t healthy. No matter what that won’t be erased even if he’s still fighting . Ortiz is a bum .

[Amir Imam]

Ortiz was robbed and as the thread starter pointed out wasn’t healthy. No matter what that won’t be erased even if he’s still fighting . Ortiz is a bum .

Guarantee he’s won more fights than every male in your family combined and I guarantee you wouldn’t say that to his face Stuart.

John McDermott, Christian Hammer we’re robbed from Fury. Got beat up in one and cheated in the other.

[Stuart Chandler]

Guarantee he’s won more fights than every male in your family combined and I guarantee you wouldn’t say that to his face Stuart.

John McDermott, Christian Hammer we’re robbed from Fury. Got beat up in one and cheated in the other.

Ortiz was disqualified for steroids against kayode or whoever that was . And ruled a NC . Fury destroyed McDermott in a rematch while I recall rumors of Wilder being blasted by journeyman and saved by the bell again and plastered on the canvas so past losses would go against Wilder and Ortiz .

[Amir Imam]

Another fighter who was juiced to the gills against Wilder. All these fighters have to cheat before getting in the ring with DW. He was so sick he took banned drugs that are used to flush steroids. Wilder beat a juiced up southpaw and Christian Hammer lost to a juiced up cheater

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Fighters who needed peds before facing DW
Povetkin
Ortiz
Andrzej Wawrzyk

[Amir Imam]

Ortiz was disqualified for steroids against kayode or whoever that was . And ruled a NC . Fury destroyed McDermott in a rematch while I recall rumors of Wilder being blasted by journeyman and saved by the bell again and plastered on the canvas so past losses would go against Wilder and Ortiz .

What does this have to do with my comment? Fury bout with Hammer was supposed to be ruled a DQ. As usual Fury gets a pass for being a drug addict.

[Stuart Chandler]

What does this have to do with my comment? Fury bout with Hammer was supposed to be ruled a DQ. As usual Fury gets a pass for being a drug addict.

You brought up past losses and allegations. You also forgot Ortiz didn’t pass a physical prior to the fight so what steroids ?

[Amir Imam]

You brought up past losses and allegations. You also forgot Ortiz didn’t pass a physical prior to the fight so what steroids ?

What do you mean what steroids. Do you not see that big paragraph I posted?

[Stuart Chandler]

What do you mean what steroids. Do you not see that big paragraph I posted?

Wilder defeated an old man who was supposed to be replaced by Martin what are you on about ? The forum knows Ortiz has health issues is that what you are giving Wilder credit for ?

[REDEEMER]

Wilder defeated an old man who was supposed to be replaced by Martin what are you on about ? The forum knows Ortiz has health issues is that what you are giving Wilder credit for ?

And this why doing Ortiz threads trying to be rational never works it’s always yes a deflection to other guys when facts are brought up, it turns into a Fury or AJ thread . Ha

[REDEEMER]

What do you mean what steroids. Do you not see that big paragraph I posted?

Ortiz was not on PEDs during Wilder fights it’s why it was postponed and actually was a asthma thing he was not allowed to take which also benefited Wilder .